SATANIC HERESY OF JOEY FAUST WITH 30 DOWNLOADS OF PROOF

Recently Greg J. Dixon gave me the book “The Rod:  Will God Spare It?”  I began a series of emails to the writer who believes in this book that Christians will be tried at the Bema of Christ and if they have not measured up they will be cast into OUTER DARKNESS for 1000 years and then go to heaven.  He forgets that some people have already been in heaven for over 1000 years but according to him they would be taken out of heaven at the Bema (Judgment Seat of Christ) and cast into OUTER DARKNESS for things that they did not do before going to heaven for 1000 years.  The messages below are a series of email answers to his evil heresy in trying to get him to see the truth and finally to condemn him for his lack of spirituality and his arrogance in continuing to promote this SATANIC HERESY.

This man’s name is Joey Faust.  He was introduced to me by an older preacher who is 80 years old.  In my conversations by email I discovered that he never went to a Bible College and was glad because he feels his knowledge is superior to any Bible College and even says that they are all poison and that they have bad theology, even the good Independent Baptist Colleges in America that are training good young people and preachers that are out building soul-winning churches.  Another thing I found out fairly much by the old saying, “The silence is deafening,” which is that he was never ordained.  I asked him, which can be seen below in my emails to him, who was on his ordination council so I could write them about this DEMONIC HERESY but he never gave an answer which I took as a no.

Well, you say, what is this heresy?  It is the belief that people can get saved and go to heaven and then at the Judgment Seat of Christ, they will be judged for the works that they have done.  Some will be gold, silver, and precious stones, and some will be wood, hay and stubble.  That sounds scriptural until you know how they interpret it.  They say that God is going to pick who will accompany him to earth for the 1000 year millennial reign.  The Judgment Seat of Christ is about being picked to live and reign with Christ or to be cast out into outer darkness to suffer in hell for 1000 years, not for sins committed since Jesus paid for our sins, but only for the good that we did but it was burned.  They say that rather than our works being burned that Christians who were carnal will be punished by God for 1000 years.   The reason I put the chart at the beginning of this post and also later on is that I want people to see just how evil and cruel they see God.  They actually see that even though a man lives 80 years as an average, that God will punish someone for 1000 years.  That is more than 10 times the length of their life on earth.  Also, if someone died and went to heaven 1000 years ago, they will come down for the Judgment Seat of Christ where even though they have already been in Heaven with Jesus, they will now be cast into OUTER DARKNESS merely because their good works were not good enough.  Rather than seeing a loving God who is not willing that any should perish and who wants the best end for everyone in the universe which is the only moral thing that a just and merciful God would do, they see a God who did not get any justice for Jesus dying on the cross for our sins.

No, that is not good enough, they want the Christian to SUFFER because judgement must begin at the house of God and he needs to show his wrath.  They then say that a person does have eternal life after they have suffered for 1000 years in outer darkness and the fires of hell.  Then, after all that suffering, they stand at the GREAT WHITE THRONE and since their names are written in the book of life they finally get to go to heaven while the lost are cast into the lake of fire.  Even though this is not taught in the Bible, they come to this conclusion by a series of misinterpretations of scripture and by quoting men who are heretics from the past.  In short, this is the most heinous DEMONIC HERESY THAT HAS EVER BEEN HATCHED BY THE DEVIL HIMSELF.  Who wants to trust a God who will claim that they are saved and going to heaven and then because the death of Jesus was not adequate to pay for sins they need to pay for their lack of faithfulness in the fires of hell?  They have basically stolen all the promises in the Bible about heaven and they have made them all apply to the 1000 year reign.  They call it the KINGDOM OF GOD.  They never really talk about heaven at all, only about the Kingdom for 1000 years.  I tried my best to reason as you will see below but this DEMON named Joey Faust artfully twisted every question or statement into an attack on me even suggesting that I might want to fear for myself because if I don’t accept his HERESY I could suffer the fate of the 1000 year curse of outer darkness.  Remember he never went to college, and was never ordained.

I would ask a rhetorical question!  Who would call a man with no Bible College training that had never been examined by any ordination council?  Evidently he got about 20 people to follow him in his small church in Texas but the evil that he has done is a warning to anyone that is in a church and looking to call a preacher to pastor their church.  Make sure you know what they believe.  Know where they were trained.  Know what books they read.  And know who ordained them.  If someone was ordained by the Mormons but claimed to be a Baptist, would you trust him?  How about someone with no college education and no ordination?  Would you trust a book that he wrote with scriptures that he found with a word search without ever checking the context of the verses or would you trust a pile of “experts” that were educated from every college except a Baptist College, like Anglican, Cambridge, Fuller Theological, Asbury Methodist, and others that would indicate that this teaching was Ecumenical at best?  Would you trust the fact that the most famous of all his references, one of the lawyers to the Supreme Court in the famous Scopes trial renounced this heresy but Joey Faust kept believing it anyway?  Lastly, would you trust a man that says that we don’t have a spirit where the Holy Spirit dwells but that the spirit is our mind in direct contradiction of the Bible?  Of course you would not give this guy anything but the directions to the door and to the road out of town.  Yet, many who obviously don’t have the spiritual discernment or the intellect and wisdom to see the fraud and heresy are held hostage by this DEMON INFLUENCED HERETIC.  Here are emails that I wrote in vain to try to convince him of the error of his ways.  I don’t put his heretical responses because they are so convoluted that it would confuse the reader so you will just need to surmise what he has said by my response to his weak and non-scriptural arguments.

Since this was written, one of his friends, a man that should know better, Dr. Greg Dixon, has found fault with this article.  Here is a website and video I found about Dr. Greg Dixon:

Website about Dr. Greg J. Dixon and his son Dr. Greg A. Dixon

Victims of Greg Dixon and his son

Churches destroyed by Dixon and his son

Three videos – exposing Greg Dixon, Showing dancing in the services, Teaching Heresy

Watch this video:

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GOD’S PURPOSE IN TRIAL BY FIRE (IN THIS LIFE ONLY) IS BRINGING OUT THE GOLD

Joey Faust perceives the trial by fire of our works as casting Christians into OUTER DARKNESS.  I was thinking of the trial by fire the other day in relationship to refining gold.  I was thinking of the fact that once we are saved, God wants us to become more like Jesus and there is a verse in Job who, one could say, endured more chastening than anyone known to man and yet he was the most Godly man of his day.  What does he say?

Behold, I go forward, but he is not there; and backward, but I cannot perceive him: On the left hand, where he doth work, but I cannot behold him: he hideth himself on the right hand, that I cannot see him: But he knoweth the way that I take: when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold. (Job 23:8-10)

Could we not easily say that the trial by fire before the Bema is more akin to God removing the chaff so that only gold remains of the works that we have done?  I have friends in the gold business and when they remove the oar from the mine, the first thing that happens is that the large rocks are crushed to make the ore like sand.  Then they spin the sand in a centrifuge to allow the “heavies” to move to the bottom and the lighter refuse fall off the top.  Next they do cyanide leaching to burn off the impurities and press the ore into “miners bars.”  The final step is the “trial by fire” which brings forth the pure end product while the impurities are scraped off the top leaving 999.9 pure gold.

My view is that God sees us as Justified IN CHRIST JESUS and wants to PURIFY US to come forth as gold.  Even though Job was the most Godly man in the world, yet God brought him through the most fire because at the end he would have the most gold of anyone alive.

Joey Faust knows not God, nor does he know the purpose of God.  I believe that God does the opposite of what Joey imagines even with the works  that are tried. Perhaps the ones with the most  trial by fire are the most Godly who will have the most “gold” in the end, not the unfaithful as Joey postulates.  Where Joey wants to think that a godly man like Job will not endure hardly any trial by fire, yet the Bible shows just the opposite.  A well known Christian in the past said, “…sometimes God chooses to keep his finest servants in chains….”  It is hardly an indictment on the less faithful that causes God to act thus.  Rather it is his goal of bringing out the gold, thus the trial by fire.
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(My answers to Joey’s heretical claims by email):

Joey:

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:  (Ephesians 2:8)

Ephesians 2:8

For by grace are ye saved – By mere favor. It is not by your Own merit; it is not because you have any claim. This is a favorite doctrine with Paul, as it is with all who love the Lord Jesus in sincerity; compare the notes at Rom_1:7; Rom_3:24, note.

Through faith – Grace bestowed through faith, or in connection with believing; see the notes at Rom_1:17; Rom_4:16, note.

And that not of yourselves – That is, salvation does not proceed from yourselves. The word rendered “that” – τοῦτο  touto – is in the neuter gender, and the word “faith” – πίστις  pistis – is in the feminine. The word “that,” therefore, does not refer particularly to faith, as being the gift of God, but to “the salvation by grace” of which he had been speaking. This is the interpretation of the passage which is the most obvious, and which is now generally conceded to be the true one; see Bloomfield. Many critics, however, as Doddridge, Beza, Piscator, and Chrysostom, maintain that the word “that” (τοῦτο  touto) refers to “faith” (πίστις  pistis); and Doddridge maintains that such a use is common in the New Testament. As a matter of grammar this opinion is certainly doubtful, if not untenable; but as a matter of theology it is a question of very little importance.

Whether this passage proves it or not, it is certainly true that faith is the gift of God. It exists in the mind only when the Holy Spirit produces it there, and is, in common with every other Christian excellence, to be traced to his agency on the heart. This opinion, however, does not militate at all with the doctrine that man himself “believes.” It is not God that “believes” for him, for that is impossible. It is his own mind that actually believes, or that exercises faith; see the notes at Rom_4:3. In the same manner “repentance” is to be traced to God. It is one of the fruits of the operation of the Holy Spirit on the soul. But the Holy Spirit does not “repent” for us. It is our “own mind” that repents; our own heart that feels; our own eyes that weep – and without this there can he no true repentance. No one can repent for another; and God neither can nor ought to repent; for us. He has done no wrong, and if repentance is ever exercised, therefore, it must be exercised by our own minds. So of faith. God cannot believe for us. “We” must believe, or “we” shall be damned. Still this does not conflict at all with the opinion, that if we exercise faith, the inclination to do it is to be traced to the agency of God on the heart. I would not contend, therefore, about the grammatical construction of this passage, with respect to the point of the theology contained in it; still it accords better with the obvious grammatical construction, and with the design of the passage to understand the word “that” as referring not to “faith” only, but to “salvation by grace.” So Calvin understands it, and so it is understood by Storr, Locke, Clarke, Koppe, Grotius, and others.

It is the gift of God – Salvation by grace is his gift. It is not of merit; it is wholly by favor.

Not of works, lest any man should boast.  (Ephesians 2:9)

Ephesians 2:9

Not of works – see the notes at Rom_3:20, 27.

Romans 3:20

By the deeds of the law – By works; or by such deeds as the Law requires. The word “Law” has, in the Scriptures, a great variety of significations. Its strict and proper meaning is, a rule of conduct prescribed by superior authority. The course of reasoning in these chapters shows the sense in which the apostle uses it here. He intends evidently to apply it to those rules or laws by which the Jews and Gentiles pretended to frame their lives; and to affirm that people could be justified by no conformity to those laws. He had shown Rom. 1 that “the pagan, the entire Gentile world,” had violated the laws of nature; the rules of virtue made known to them by reason, tradition, and conscience. He had shown the same Rom. 2–3 in respect to the Jews. They had equally failed in rendering obedience to their Law. In both these cases the reference was, not to “ceremonial” or ritual laws, but to the moral law; whether that law was made known by reason or by revelation. The apostle had not been discussing the question whether they had yielded obedience to their ceremonial law, but whether they had been found holy, that is, whether they had obeyed the moral law. The conclusion was, that in all this they had failed, and that therefore they could not be justified by that Law. That the apostle did not intend to speak of external works only is apparent; for he all along charges them with a lack of conformity of the heart no less than with a lack of conformity of the life; see Rom_1:26, Rom_1:29-31; Rom_2:28-29. The conclusion is therefore a general one, that by no law, made known either by reason, conscience, tradition, or revelation, could man be justified; that there was no form of obedience which could be rendered, that would justify people in the sight of a holy God.

There shall no flesh – No man; no human being, either among the Jews or the Gentiles. It is a strong expression, denoting the absolute universality of his conclusion; see the note at Rom_1:3.

Be justified – Be regarded and treated as righteous. None shall be esteemed as having kept the Law, and as being entitled to the rewards of obedience; see the note at Rom_1:17.

In his sight – Before him. God sits as a Judge to determine the characters of people, and he shall not adjudge any to have kept the Law.

For by the law – That is, by all law. The connection shows that this is the sense. Law is a rule of action. The effect of applying a rule to our conduct is to show us what sin is. The meaning of the apostle clearly is, that the application of a law to try our conduct, instead of being a ground of justification, will be merely to show us our own sinfulness and departures from duty. A man may esteem himself to be very right and correct, until he compares himself with a rule, or law; so whether the Gentiles compared their conduct with their laws of reason and conscience, or the Jew his with his written law, the effect would be to show them how far they had departed. The more closely and faithfully it should be applied, the more they would see it. So far from being justified by it, they would be more and more condemned; compare Rom_7:7-10. The same is the case now. This is the way in which a sinner is converted; and the more closely and faithfully the Law is preached, the more will it condemn him, and show him that he needs some other plan of salvation.

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.  (Ephesians 2:10)

Ephesians 2:10

For we are his workmanship – We are his “making” – ποίημα  poiēma. That is, we are “created or formed” by him, not only in the general sense in which all things are made by him, but in that special sense which is denoted by the new creation; see the notes at 2Co_5:17. Whatever of peace, or hope, or purity we have, has been produced by his agency on the soul. There cannot be conceived to be a stronger expression to denote the agency of God in the conversion of people, or the fact that salvation is wholly of grace.

Created in Christ Jesus – On the word “created,” see the notes at 2Co_5:17.

Unto good works – With reference to a holy life; or, the design for which we have been created in Christ is, that we should lead a holy life. The primary object was not to bring us to heaven. It was that we should be “holy.” Paul held perhaps more firmly than any other man, to the position that people are saved by the mere grace of God, and by a divine agency on the soul; but it is certain that no man ever held more firmly that people must lead holy lives, or they could have no evidence that they were the children of God.

Which God hath before ordained – Margin, “prepared.” The word here used means to “prepare beforehand,” then to predestinate, or appoint before. The proper meaning of this passage is, “to which οἷς  hois good works God has predestinated us, or appointed us beforehand, that we should walk in them.” The word used here – προετοιμάζω  proetoimazō – occurs in the New Testament nowhere else except in Rom_9:23, where it is rendered “had afore prepared.” It involves the idea of a previous determination, or an arrangement beforehand for securing a certain result. The previous preparation here referred to was, the divine intention; and the meaning is, that God had predetermined that we should lead holy lives. It accords, therefore, with the declaration in Eph_1:4, that he had chosen his people before the foundation of the world that they should be holy: see the notes at that verse.

That we should walk in them – That we should live holy lives. The word “walk” is often used in the Scriptures to denote the course of life; notes on Rom_6:4.

Joey:

I have probably been saved longer than you have been alive.  I have been to three Bible Colleges and have a degree in Pastoral Theology.  I had such a high English score that I was put into Greek. However, the degree means nothing.  It is knowing God that is everything.   Believe me, you don’t know the same God that I know.  Your “wanabee fake god” of vengeance is not the God of the Bible. It sounds strangely a lot like “Allah” the fake “god” of Islam.  That is not my God. You can twist the Bible any way your MIND wants to do but that is not where God dwells.   Interestingly, according to your theology of Kindom Exclusion, you would be number one on the list going to OUTER DARKNESS for teaching a heresy that is sending people to hell yet thinking that they are going to “Baptist Purgatory.”  Sorry, the Bible says that devils believe and tremble.  It appears that your faith is no better than theirs because you say you believe and yet your whole theology is to get people to tremble like the Devil.  Your belief is no different than that of devils and demons. They expect to be cast into outer darkness also.   That is not the God I know.  I will continue to pray that you will repent of this heresy and REALLY TRUST Jesus Christ.  As long as you think there is anything you can do to merit the “Kingdom” it only shows your lost condition.  In addition, your answer to me regarding the purpose of God and the laws of the spirit were telling.  You said that the spirit of man is the mind which it is not and you said that the purpose of God is to vindicate the holiness and justice of God, and show that He is not mocked, and that judgment begins at the House of God, and He will do what He has warned – as much as what He has promised to the faithful, which was the wrong answer.  Your answers are evidence that you don’t know the God of the Bible.  Thus, I will continue to pray for your salvation.  When you come to the point where you can rest in the FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST, you will be finally saved but not until then.  I am praying.

Joey:

Regarding Hebrews 6 and 10, I studied the whole book of Hebrews in the Greek and your interpretation is way off.  It has nothing to do with Armenian doctrine nor does it have anything to do with the Millennium.  You would need to do an in depth study of every word like I did in order to get the correct meaning.  Reading commentaries is a great fallacy.  Scripture interprets itself and knowing how to read the Bible and get the meaning of the most simple words makes all the difference in the world.

Joey:

One other thing, I am not a newcomer to the Bible.  I have every commentary and then some but I never base my interpretation of the Bible on Tozer or any other man.  As I said, the Bible interprets itself.  Perhaps you need to get a better education so you can learn how do rightly divide the Word.  When I read the first few chapters of your book I was shocked at your lack of discernment and even the most elementary understanding of the texts you cited.  You obviously never read any of them in context nor did you do an analytical study of every word in each verse as I have done in the book of Hebrews.  You really need to go to college and get an education.  This is why some people spend years studying textual criticism so they won’t make the glaring mistakes you have made.  As I have said earlier, knowing God would go a long way to your wrong interpretation of scripture.  That is why the Holy Spirit dwells in our spirits, to help us by teaching us the meaning of the scripture.  With the Holy Spirit, you don’t need Tozer or any other scholar, you have God Himself.  When you finally come to know the Lord, he will teach you the meaning of all these scriptures where you are now totally confused.  Jesus said he spoke in parables for this very reason.  Only those who had the Holy Spirit can interpret, those that don’t have the Holy Spirit need Tozer.

Joey:

Assuming you are really saved, you would do well to get a good education from a place that will teach you the proper method of dividing the word of God.  There is a place in Texas that I would recommend – http://www.texasbaptistcollege.org/TBC/Home.html

Also, since much of the time people lack discernment because of sin in their lives as it says in Romans 7, here is a link to the REPENTANCE CONFESSION LIST that I use in my own life and if you make this a part of your life you may find that the block on your mind is lifted so you can see clearly in the spirit to discern the errors in the assumptions that you have made.

http://ifyoucouldknow.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Repentance-Confession-List.pdf

Joey:

I don’t need to look at my notes but I know that since this book was written to the Jewish people to convince them that Jesus was their Messiah – Hebrews – in chapter 6 there is a reference to “once enlightened” and “tasted of the heavenly gift” and “partakers of the world to come” and then “fall away.”  When it is studied in the Greek it shows a picture of Jews (once enlightened – their old Testament prophets) who sat in the meetings seeing people saved and coming to Christ (got a taste of what could be theirs if they accepted Christ – the wording is about someone coming up to the door but not being willing to enter completely) but their “taste” was not partaking of the whole meal, only a taste because they never got saved.  At this point they were partakers by proxy in the world to come but only by being able to view it as a possibility that they never made a commitment to receive like someone standing on the shore looking into the boat with others happily getting ready to enjoy the ride but at the last minute backing out.  They then fell away because they decided that the Gospel was not for them, they decided to stick with the old sacrifices and old law hoping that the “true Messiah” would still come (which Jews still think will happen today) but there remains no more sacrifice for sin since Jesus was the only sacrifice and there is no other sacrifice coming in the future.  Since they rejected their Messiah, there is no more sacrifice for sin and that is all and there is none other.

The same theme is taken up again in chapter 10 where it is talking about Christians assembling together but also issuing a warning to those who thought that they would wait for the “true Messiah” which would never come since Jesus was already the messiah.  It says that if we “sin willfully” which would mean that these Jewish people standing at the crossroads of history with a change from the old laws to Christ who was the end of the law and they know that they should choose Jesus but they SIN WILLFULLY in rejecting him still, as Jews are doing today, hoping for the “true Messiah” which already came and offered himself a sacrifice which He will not offer again and since they have rejected Him there remains a “sorer punishment” for those who trod under foot the “blood of the covenant” which is a term the Hebrews would understand since there was a blood sacrifice in the Old Testament but they were rejecting the blood sacrifice of Jesus “wherewith He was sanctified” meaning that Jesus was set apart as a special kind of sacrifice or sanctified, and they then counted His blood sacrifice an unholy thing as Jews do today meaning that they did despite to the Spirit of Grace.  God says they would receive the vengeance and judge “his people” meaning the Jews who rejected Christ, not Christians by no means since these Jews had never received Christ, they backed out and went back to their old animal sacrifice.  This is why it says the Lord shall judge His People since the Jews had been His Chosen Nation since Abraham.   IT HAS NOTHING TO  O WITH CHRISTIANS EVER.

Armenians get this wrong in trying to prove that Christians lose their salvation but it is not talking about Christians at all nor is it talking about losing salvation or punishment in the Millennium for those that do not overcome.  That would be a completely wrong interpretation of this passage.  This is one reason so many people get into doctrinal error.  These Jews were at a particularly interesting time in history where the Old Testament was transitioning into the New Testament and they were having difficulty making the choice to accept the new and turn from the old.  Some just could not do so and so there was no new sacrifice for sin.  Jesus was it.

Joey:

I have some material about Chastening of God, Discipline of the Holy Spirit, and Governmental Forgiveness which accomplish what it appears you are attempting with your false theory of Millennium Exclusion.  Here are the links:

Governmental Forgiveness – http://ifyoucouldknow.info/?page_id=247

Chastening of God – http://ifyoucouldknow.info/?page_id=261

Discipline of the Holy Spirit – http://ifyoucouldknow.info/?page_id=272

God has not made any sanction for punishment after death for Christians.  The only thing that happens is loss of rewards at worst.  If one makes the case that some receive more in the way of authority in the Millennium, then someone who received no authority would be embarrassed for 1000 years which would tell the whole world that they had no rewards.  That in and of itself would be the way My God would deal with the situation.  The sanction of punishment in Outer Darkness is only for those who reject God’s mercy in the death of Jesus on the Cross and rising from the dead.  God would destroy his own character if there were any other sanction after he has justified the sinner (made him just as if he never sinned).  Loss of rewards could never be outer darkness or hell since that is only reserved for the Devil and his angels and those who reject Christ.  The examples above show that God is more than able to discipline in this life.  There would be no purpose for punishment in outer darkness since Jesus has already taken that punishment.  As Jesus said on the cross, IT IS FINISHED.  Your attempt to add a sanction that God has never mentioned in the Bible one time is misplaced.  The discipline of a father of a son whom he loves would never be a torture chamber.  We don’t discipline our children in hate, we do it in love.  Most parents lovingly tell their children of a punishment, administer the punishment with respect, and then restore the child back to fellowship immediately.  No parent would ever banish a child for thousands of years simply for failing to achieve success in some duty in the household.  That kind of overkill is like trying to kill a mosquito with an atomic bomb.  The punishment does not match the situation.  God would never do as your book has suggested.  This is why I stated that I am praying for your salvation.  It is puzzling that you could be so far off if you even know God.  My God would never banish any Christian for 1000 years in a punishment that is reserved only for the Devil, his angels, and the lost.  Your book is causing great harm to the body of Christ.

If you are teachable, I can teach you what the meaning is of many of your proof texts since you got 90% of them wrong like the verses in Hebrews.  Your mistake was that you did not get good counsel during the manuscript stage or if you did get counsel, you only accepted those who agreed with your hypothesis.  My father was a structural engineer when I was a child.  He always paid someone to correct his work before it was approved for the factory.  I am sure at times that he was angered or shocked when a correction was sent back but you needed someone like me to show where you were making errors so you would not have embarrassed yourself as you have not and no doubt you have drawn much opposition from some.  It would have been better to take correction as a good son before publishing rather than publish and then find yourself branded as a heretic and cult leader.  Your desire to show that God does chasten Christians is not misplaced as long as it fits the character of God and the teaching of the Bible.  Just think about how many people there were on the KJV committees and how many times they reviewed every verse and then had other committees review the same verses over a great extended period of time and they all got to put in their opinion until the final version was the great work that we have today.  It appears that you took a calculated risk of allowing your work to go to print without adequate review or if you did ask for review, you were too hasty and did not get a wide enough range of commentary from your peers.  Had the KJV committee been as hasty, they may have had just as many errors as your book has with as many people crying “foul.”  Read the book of Proverbs some time about wisdom.  That is what you have lacked in your writings.  I am not going to debate with you but I have written this as a father would a son in order to lovingly show you that your logic and conclusions have glaring errors and the reasons for them.  Postulate this graph if you will:

 

 Can you actually say with a straight face that this is how a Just and Loving God thinks?

Do you mean to tell the world that the blue area of discipline is a just measure from a loving God who gave his Son for the sins of the world and this punishment in the Millennium is not for sins, it is only for good works that are burned?  I am sorry but that “god” does not exist.  It is preposterous and not supported by even one verse from the bible.  No court in the world and no human judge would ever consider this a just measure for nothing more than lack of works since sins are already covered.  It is totally preposterous.  Not true. Gross error!  This is not found anywhere in the Bible.

Joey:

This is why you are having a problem with heresy.  You don’t want to listen to reasonable views.  You prefer to argue.  I don’t have time to give you a college education.  You need to enroll in a good Bible College and learn why you are wrong.  Anyone that reads the book of Hebrews can see how the writer is making a case for Jesus as the Messiah. If it is only to Christians he does not need to make that case.  True there may be Christians in his audience but there are also unsaved.  In fact, he may also have been helping the Christians with some truths to help them win their lost friends and relatives.  Do you try to win people to Christ?  When Jesus spoke the sermon on the mount do you think that the hearers were all Christians?  When Paul the Apostle spoke on Mars Hill was he speaking to all Christians?  Even when Paul spoke in Synagogues were all the Jews that he spoke to Christians?  Come on Joey, you can’t be that ignorant.  Just sit down and think and pray.  If you are really a Christian, God will reveal the truth to you.  You don’t need me.  However, if you are not saved, you need all the powers of your reasoning because you don’t have the Holy Ghost.  You are doing it again, quoting verses out of context.  I gave you the meaning in Greek, if you can’t accept that then you won’t accept anything else I say.  That is precisely why you promulgated this heresy.  It is because of lack of spiritual discernment and also because your reasoning is deductive reasoning based upon a pre-conceived notion that Christians go to purgatory which is not taught in the Bible.

Regarding the fact that other books were written to Christians, if that is the case why does Paul in Romans tell the reader so many of the verses that we all use in winning people to Christ? I have used the Romans Road for 40 years to win souls.  If it was written to Christians are you saying that he did not believe that they were saved and so had to get them saved?  The same can be said for almost every book of the New Testament.  Just because the writer is writing to Christians does not mean that he is not also trying to give them strong reasoning to win others to Christ and in the case of Hebrews, he is telling them of the stern warnings as they talk to other Jews about how they had better not SIN WILLFULLY.  Sin is defined as to miss the mark.  The mark was Jesus Christ and anyone that missed that mark and went back to the Old Testament would have no place of salvation because Jesus Christ is the end of the Old Testament sacrifices.  I would have thought that you were much smarter than to try to make every word of every Epistle apply only to Christians where nothing that was said could possibly be used to win people to Christ.  Do you know what the purpose of God is?  Do you think it is your ridiculous notion that God only cares about his own justice and holiness with no regard to the souls of men?  How preposterous!  As the Bible says, God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.  His purpose is to make it EASY for people to be saved.  He shows his holiness and justice in the death of Jesus Christ on the cross not by condemning those he rescued to torture.  Your “god” is certainly not my God.  This is why I said that I am praying that you get saved.  Evidently we don’t have the same God.

 

Joey:

I tried, but you refuse.  Please repent of your sin of thinking that the mind is the spirit and renounce your heresy of Kingdom Exclusion.  I can’t answer a blind man.  I am not trying to argue with you but advise you as a father.  Sorry, pray and ask God for the answer.  I tried but you have proved why I am praying for your salvation.   The Devil knows more scripture than you but he believes and fears just like you.  I hope that God speaks to your spirit.  It is your Kingdom Exclusion sin that has your spirit blocked and until you confess that sin and repent of it you won’t understand me.  When you have done that, you may write and ask other questions.  Until then I won’t waste any more time.

Joey:

Your answer is indicative of how you wrote your book.  You copy and paste and make disjointed statements and ask meaningless questions but you don’t seriously consider what has been said.  You have never acknowledged that even one thing I said may be true.  I rest my case.  Please repent and come to the God that would never condemn anyone to purgatory after they have accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.  If that is not your God, you have the wrong one.  Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.  I am still praying.

Joey:

A quote from my facebook of a man who is using Hebrews 10 the right way:

Evangelist Sajad

Reason why I continue worship and Praising our Jesus Christ I have few reason in my office as I am working in natural gas company and after duty hours and holiday we are serving for the Kingdom of Jesus Christ Amen, so I am only Christian in our department and 48 other’s are Muslim’s so I have story of faith and prayer. one day my junior a Muslim man was in an other department and a Christian boy gift him a Christian book ( The Cross of Jesus Christ) so he come back in office and I seen ( The Cross of Jesus Christ) in his hand I ask him how you got this book and he told me so I ask him read this book God will bless you Amen so he read few words from this book and he left on table of workshop of our department and after few days I seen this book in another person hand and after few mints in my boss hands and my boss take a one eyes on this book and give back him oh my God as he got back he throw on floor with out any fear I was surprised and i think to give him few slaps but I don’t know who force me to stop every thing if you slaps him it will not better so do pray for him pray every day pray, so I start praying for him but I did not pray for his salvation or sorry to mistake I feel honor I start prayer that Dear Jesus Christ he insult Your word he insult Holy Bible so here’s no law to punish him in Pakistan so I am requesting you please punish him and my request to you turn his hand and foot and he will not able to pick any thing he cant move easily here’s and there’s Amen i am praying for him from last 2 months and I am looking after few days he was infected by stone in bladder so he got treatment and stone were out by urine from bladder in few days but i did not stop my praying and now from 21 August 2012 he is in a new way like his down part of body is not working properly and he can’t stand on his foot for 5 mints he cant pick any thing from earth when he stand on his foot he feel his down part of body sleep if you pinch him with nail he feel nothing change so please stand with us because he insult of our Holy Words. he think our God is nothing but our God is Hebrews 10:29-31 How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[a] and again, “The Lord will judge his people.”[b] 31 it is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

In Christ Evangelist Sajad Shahzad

He uses this as you should be doing, for the lost and not for Christians.

Joey:

I will give you one more chance, just like a crisis negotiator.  I want you to acknowledge one thing before I will answer any other emails or questions.  Do you acknowledge that Hebrews 6 and 10 as translated from the Greek in my explanation are both acceptable in light of the fact that any epistle can have messages to both lost and saved?  If you don’t acknowledge this then I won’t go any further.

Joey:

I tried.  You are in the gall of bitterness and the bond of iniquity.  You have no idea what you are saying and yes, I have studied this in great detail for over 30 years.  I had a friend who thought that he could lose his salvation and did in depth study.  I am older than you and have forgotten more than you will ever know.  When you have some respect for an elder and do as I said in my last email, I may answer you but right now you have crossed the line.  YOU ARE NOT SAVED. YOU ARE LOST AND GOD WILL SEND YOU TO THE PLACE YOU LONG TO GO, OUTER DARKNESS.

Joey:

One other statement!  Send your manuscript to every major Baptist College in America, to the Theology department, and see if they answer you any differently.  I promise you, you are not in the majority, nor does God like your thesis.  I tried to answer you as a father but you threatened me with the judgment of God.  That is not wise.  If you need a list, I can provide one.  Or, shall I send it for you?  You will find out that I am not a novice as you are but well versed in the scripture and in theology.  I have my own 400 page book on theology.  YOU ARE WRONG AND WHEN YOU ADMIT IT AND REPENT OF YOUR SIN THEN YOU CAN FINALLY GET TO KNOW THE TRUE GOD.

Joey:

As the Bible says so adequately:

They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.  (1 John 2:19)

But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.  (2 Peter 2:22)

I thought when you asked for the interpretation of Hebrews 6 and 10 that you would listen to an older man with more experience many more years of study and experience than you, and one that has, I am sure, every major Bible College theology department behind what I have said.  However, when it comes down to you admitting that you were wrong, you sidestep the facts.  If you won’t admit the most elementary of truths about Hebrews 6 and 10 then you would never listen to all the research I have done which would obliterate your whole thesis.  The very root, the character of God is wrong and that makes your whole thesis void. In fact, your thesis is immoral because it is based on selfish principles for God and man and offers selfish goals.  It should, as your theory states, be burned in fire.  I would put your theory in with any book on witchcraft ever written and I would not be surprised if the spirit you have is a demon spirit.  It is certainly not the spirit of God.  Mohammed wrote the Quran with a demon spirit.  The angel Moroni (Satan) appeared to Joseph Smith with the plates of the Book of Mormon, a demon spirit.  And Joey Faust accepted a God who wants Christians to burn in outer darkness.  You fit the pattern of wanabee cultists who have a demon spirit teaching them heresy.  As I said, I am praying for your soul.  When you repent of this heresy, God will forgive your sin.

Joey:

Let’s see, warnings for Christians.  How about Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature?  How about he that winneth souls is wise?  How about go out into the highways and hedges and compel them to come in that my house may be full?  Is your church full?  How many soul-winning ministries do you have?  Perhaps the warning is for you.  Remember it is not a warning for sin like in Hebrews, it is a warning for being an overcomer, being faithful, right?  So, could you say that you are obeying the commands for service and could you say that you are a good and faithful servant that God would make a ruler in His kingdom?  Oh, oh!  It looks like your house is not full.  Wow!  The one who wrote the book will be cast into outer darkness for not fulfilling the great commission.  What a shame, he was cursed by his own writings.

Joey:

None of the names you quote mean anything.  I don’t go by commentaries like I said.  I only go by the Bible which you have rejected.  When you repent of your sin perhaps there can be some discussion.  I would never consider Charles Stanley and expert on anything, nor Dr. De Haan.  As far as the Unregistered Church, I am their webmaster so you can’t say I know nothing about that movement.  Really, Joey, you go so far to avoid the obvious, namely, you are twisting the Bible and won’t accept the truth that I explained to you in Hebrews.  Also, as I said, unless you accept that we can’t discuss any further.  It is like a negotiator who is trying to talk a terrorist down who is holding hostages.  You are the terrorist and you are holding hostages in the form of preachers, children, church members and others.  I am the negotiator.  I am trying to talk you down from your heresy but unless you give up something you don’t get anything from this side.  If you were teachable, we could get somewhere, but you are not.

Oh, by the way, the colleges I spoke about are all red hot soul-winning colleges of Independent Baptist teaching that believe in the KJV and all the doctrines that have been held since the time of Christ.  They are the old guard, the TRAIL OF BLOOD.  I can assure you that except for Dr. Dixon who you put into a coma somehow, none of these men of God would accept your heresy.  I have even written to some biblical scholars for the KJV since we began to correspond and they all call you a heretic.  You must think I am a stupid teenager but I am not.  What college did you say you graduated from?  Be sanctimonious all you wish, you still won’t admit that you are wrong about Hebrews 6 and 10.  Until you admit that we can’t go to the next step.  Did you download the REPENTANCE CONFESSION LIST.  I think you must have unconfessed sin or you would see spiritually but since you can’t see what I am saying, you are either unsaved or you have unconfessed sin in your life that is blocking the Holy Spirit.  Are you ready to repent yet?

Joey:

You can’t lose something you never had.

(Addressed to Joey)

TELL ME STRAIGHT, HOW MANY OF THESE KE MEN BELIEVE A CHRISTIAN WILL BE CAST INTO OUTER DARKNESS. TELL ME!  TELL ME!  TELL ME!  TELL ME! DON’T BEAT AROUND THE BUSH.  HOW MANY?  HOW MANY? CHRISTIANS DON’T GO INTO OUTER DARKNESS AND IF THEY DO IT IS NOT ETERNAL SECURITY.  YOU ARE MAD AND SO OF ALL THE PEOPLE I HAVE EVER MET OR WRITTEN TO, YOU HAVE THE BEST CHANCE TO BE GREETED BY THE FATE YOU ARE WISHING ON OTHERS, OUTER DARKNESS.  INCREDIBLE!  SATANIC!  DEMONIC!  HATEFUL!  JUDGEMENT FOR WHAT CHRIST HAS ALREADY PAID FOR?  JUDGEMENT FOR LACK OF WORKS?  YOU ARE CRAZY!  NAME THE VERY ONES THAT BELIEVE THAT ANY CHRISTIAN CAN GO INTO OUTER DARKNESS AND WHEN I DO MY VIDEO EXPOSING YOU ALL THEY WILL BE NAMED ALONG WITH YOU.  BELIEVE ME GOD IS NOT MOCKED. WHATSOEVER A MAN SOETH HE SHALL ALSO REAP.  YOU ARE SOWING OUTER DARKNESS AND YOU WILL REAP OUTER DARKNESS.

Joey:

Right, and Charles Stanley and DeHaan are unregistered church pastors too, right?  You still have not answered the question about Hebrews 6 and 10.  Will you admit you were wrong?  We can’t move on until you do.

Joey:

I should not do this but since you don’t understand salvation or how God works with Christians to make them more like Himself, I am giving this to you in hopes it will shine a light in your soul to show you just how far off you are:

http://www.jackhyles.com/salvationmore.htm – It is an online book entitled SALVATION IS MORE THAN BEING SAVED.

Since you won’t admit that the Greek interpretation of Hebrews was correct, I will give you one other option, to read this online book completely through.  If you do, perhaps I will answer another question from the Bible and explain that in the Greek as well.

By the way, did you ever tell me what Bible College you got your degree from?

(From Joey)

Well, if you can read, you would think you would open the book I wrote, look at the back, where it says, “Christians in History who have taught this” and read for yourself. But to help you, the following men are only some who taught that Christians can go into outer darkness and still be saved:

Robert Govett, G.H. Pember, Watchman Nee, Tozer, Paul Rader, I.M. Haldeman, S.S. Craig, R.E. Neighbor, Philip Mauro, D.M. Panton, etc.

These are only a few of many. Look them up yourself in the back of the book. Gotta run and hit the streets. Send me the video when you are done.

Joey:

Right got the names.  They are all Independent Baptists, right?  I researched Govett, a contemporary with Westcott and Hort in England.  Interesting!  They had many demons teaching people over there.  Oh, how many of these were unregistered church people?  How many were Baptists, Govett was Anglican until he got baptized but his training was not Baptist.  Watchman Nee never taught this heresy even though he may have gotten some of it from Govett.  The Watchman Nee website won’t put “Come Lord Jesus” on their site because they consider it heresy also.  KJV Scholars that I have written consider Govett a heretic on this.  By the way, Watchman Nee was not a Baptist.  Have you ever been to one of his churches?  I have, in California.  No pastor!  No soul-winning!  Maybe like your church!  His church polity was wrong but I don’t fault him, I fault his mentors like Mrs. Barber who was a member of Govett’s church in England where I have been many times.  There are a lot of witches covens there and much occult activity.  Your heresy is a doctrine of demons.  I am still praying for your salvation.

Joey:

I have been doing research on the first nine of the names you gave me and most of them are not Baptists.  The most noteworthy of them all was Philip Mauro who wrote the brief for the famous Scopes trial that renounced this false heresy.  It appears that all of these were ultra-dispensationalists which I consider to be false doctrine.  I am sure that if I research the rest of the names in your book, I will find similar results.  It is a shame that you have written a book without knowing these references and passing this book off as a Baptist Doctrine which it is not. You also claim that these are unregistered church Baptists which is a lie. THIS IS HERESY AND YOU KNOW IT.  I am particularly sad that my very good friend Dr. Greg Dixon has subscribed to your heresy.  I hope that he prayerfully considers that this is not Baptist teaching nor is it biblical.

  1. Robert Govett – 1825 to 1901 – Anglican Training, Brethren – called a heretic by others
  2. B.H. Pember – 1805 to 1877 – Cambridge Training, Brethren
  3. Watchman Nee – 1903 to 1972 – Parents Methodists – baptized by American Methodist Episcopal Mission
  4. Aiden Wilson Tozer – 1897 to 1963 – No formal theological training, Christian Missionary Alliance – Wheaton College degree finally later in life.
  5. Paul Rader – 1934 – Asbury Theological Seminary, Fuller theological Seminary, General Salvation Army
  6. I.M. Haldeman – 1845 to 1933 – Baptist with no formal training – combated Jevhovah’s Witness – fixation on their Kingdom theology
  7. S.S. Craig – 1833 to 1916 – Book – Dualism of Eternal Life – no idea of his training or church affiliation
  8. R.E. Neighbour – Pastor of Southside Baptist Church – SC – 1908 to 1912- no other information
  9. Philip Mauro (1859-1952) – lawyer/writer – The Church, the Churches and the Kingdom – Dispensationalism Justifies the Crucifixion – Saved at 45 – Episcopalian background – His early twentieth century was a period of great expansion for many errors, such as Dispensationalism and Anglo Israelism.  He first believed in the two stage secret rapture but then renounced it:  (Of the “two stage secret rapture” theory) “It is mortifying to remember that I not only held and taught these novelties myself, but that I even enjoyed a complacent sense of superiority because thereof, and regarded with feelings of pity and contempt those who had not received the ‘new light’ and were unacquainted with this up-to-date method of ‘rightly dividing the word of truth’… The time came… when the inconsistencies and self-contradictions of the system itself, and above all, the impossibility of reconciling its main positions with the plain statement of the Word of God, became so glaringly evident that I could not do otherwise than to renounce it” (Kingdom, pp.177,178).  He wrote the brief that was used at the famous Scopes Trial.
  10. David Morrieson Panton (D. M. Panton) (1870–1955) – pastor of Surrey Chapel, Norwich, Norfolk, UK, – Father Archbishop of the Church of England – West Indies – educated at the Old Hall School, Wellington, for two years, then at St. Lawrence’s School, Ramsgate, where he spent another two years. Finally he attended university at Caius College, Cambridge – Panton was influenced by one of his tutors, Labarestier, who came from Jersey. It was from him Panton first heard of the doctrines of the coming Kingdom and the Glory of Christ, during the last thousand years of earth’s existence (The Millennium). Panton, also, came to accept the view there were conditions, which disciples had to fulfil in order to share this special reign (“Selective Rapture”). The immediate consequence was Panton’s acceptance of baptism by total immersion, which caused him to leave the Church of England and become an “Undenominational” Christian. Panton remained unaffiliated for most of his life, though later he did bring his Church into membership of the Fellowship of Independent Evangelical Churches. THIS MAN WAS NOT A BAPTIST and like many from England was educated at Cambridge.

I am an Independent Baptist Pastor and even when I was in college we were warned not to read any book that was not written by a Baptist.  None of the above would be approved reading in Bible College.  This is why anyone who has never attended a Bible College can get seduced by doctrines of demons like you, Joey.  You have no background and your methods of research and scholarship are extremely flawed.  I hope that as I expose your heresy my good friend Dr. Dixon will  eventually realize that this is not Baptist teaching.

I can almost guarantee you that the most well known of Independent Baptist Pastors in America in the last 50 years do not believe this to be sound doctrine.  I will continue to research.  You obviously thought that I would be impressed with your list of names, but I am not.  I could never subscribe to Brethern, Methodist, Methodist Episcopal, Anglican, or Christian and Missionary Alliance doctrine which is a list of those who you have assimilated as experts in this heresy.  I am creating a good deal of information since you have refused my wisdom on this and I will publish it when I am prepared to do so on one of my websites.

Mr. Williams,

Your internet “research” shows some problems. You write:

“The most noteworthy of them all was Philip Mauro who wrote the brief for the famous Scopes trial that renounced this false heresy.”

Please send over the proof that Mauro renounced the doctrines we are discussing.

Joey:

You are going down.  You are not saved and every proof that you are wrong just brings more evil from your twisted mind.  This is a direct quote from Mauro:

.  He first believed in the two stage secret rapture but then renounced it:

(Of the “two stage secret rapture” theory) “It is mortifying to remember that I not only held and taught these novelties myself, but that I even enjoyed a complacent sense of superiority because thereof, and regarded with feelings of pity and contempt those who had not received the ‘new light’ and were unacquainted with this up-to-date method of ‘rightly dividing the word of truth’… The time came… when the inconsistencies and self-contradictions of the system itself, and above all, the impossibility of reconciling its main positions with the plain statement of the Word of God, became so glaringly evident that I could not do otherwise than to renounce it” (Kingdom, pp.177,178).

Joey:

I am curious, what pastors were In your ordination council?  We can settle this once and for all.  I will contact them and ask them if your heresy would have allowed you to be ordained.  I can assure you that when I was ordained, your false heresy would have prompted rejection.  Also, don’t patronize me.  You are a disrespectful arrogant fool.  You refuse the word of God and think that your much reading of heretical teachings will get you some kind of power over people.  It may work with others but it will never work with me.  The more you talk and stick your foot into your mouth the more I realize just how lost your soul is.  Here is something showing that a fake like you can look just like a Christian but be lost:

Let’s look at areas where the outward life of both saint and sinner may agree.

They may be alike in matters not pertaining to the will; this includes involuntary actions.  For instance:

  1. They may both desire their own happiness. This is common to all men, both saints and sinners.
  2. They both may also desire the happiness of others.  This is common for both saints and sinners and there is no more moral character in desiring this than there is in a desire for food and drink.  One need only observe any individual who is happy if others are happy unless the happiness of another is in some way inconsistent with his own.  This is the same for observing the pain of others where both saints and sinners have feelings for helping them out of their misery unless the sinner has a selfish reason for desiring the pain of another.
  3. Both saints and sinners may both dread their own misery and that of others.  This has nothing to do with moral character as it is part of human nature.  There are examples of people who had no desire to be saved themselves but when they heard about the truths presented in the gospel they wanted to warn their friends and family to flee from the wrath to come.  The Bible tells of the rich man who was already in hell and he wished someone to tell his family and warn them not to come to that awful place.  Some feel the same way when the state of their own will is selfish and they dread their own misery which leads them to use whatever means they can to prevent the misery of hell.  It is not benevolence, but selfishness.  They did not come to know God, they only sought for an escape from their impending doom.  Even those who go to hell will grieve over the misery of those around them.  They will see the misery of others that are in hell because of them and be filled with deep remorse and agony for those who suffer near or around them.  We may say, then, that both saints and sinners wish their own happiness, the happiness of others and that they are also able to rejoice at the happiness and safety of others, especially those who get saved; they will also grieve alike over those who remain unconverted.  Stories are told of people who are hardened sinners who rejoice when a friend or family member is saved by coming to God in repentance and faith.  At times they will even weep for joy because someone they know received Christ.  There is an example in the Bible of a demon possessed girl who followed the apostles and proclaimed to all who heard her that these men had the way of salvation. Yet, in the life of a sinner these feelings and desires are not benevolence, they are selfishness.  The sinner is still lost.  This is not evidence of regeneration.
  4. Both saints and sinners can desire their own sanctification and that of others.  They may want sanctification as a condition of salvation for themselves and for others.  That is no proof of regeneration.
  5. Both saints and sinners may desire to be useful as a condition of salvation.
  6. They may also both desire that others be useful as a condition of salvation.
  7. They may both desire to glorify God as a condition that exists in their salvation.
  8. They may both desire for others to glorify God as a condition of their salvation.
  9. Both saints and sinners may desire strongly that there be a revival in the area.  The sinner tries to promote his own salvation this way by desiring his friends to be saved or to desire a revival.
  10. They may even desire that the truth and righteousness will triumph.  They may want vice and error to fail because of the effects of these things on self and friends.  These are constitutional desires and are natural to both saint and sinner under certain sets of circumstances.  The sinner has no moral character but his selfishness takes on a religious flavor; it even promotes religion.  He is still controlled by selfish desire, none the less.
  11. Both saints and sinners may approve right and disapprove wrong so that they both approve of and delight in goodness.  Sometimes sinners weep at the goodness they see in the world or in others while they are not even saved themselves.  It is only human nature.  The Bible talks about sinners drawing near to God:  “Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the ordinances of justice; they take delight in approaching to God. Wherefore have we fasted, say they, and thou seest not? wherefore have we afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge? Behold, in the day of your fast ye find pleasure, and exact all your labours. Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high.”  (Isaiah 58:2-4) “And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness. And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not.”  (Ezekiel 33:31-32)  This sounds much like our “Christians” in churches today, doesn’t it?  “For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?”  (Romans 7:22-24)
  12. Both saints and sinners may intellectually approve of but even get emotional over the characters of good men.  Sometimes this is true of good men in their own time but it is more frequent that they revere men of a former age and distant country.  This was true of the Jews that crucified Jesus Christ.  They talked about their fore-fathers but they cursed and shouted the loudest for Jesus to be crucified.  The problem for them is that they would not be easy around a man of God in the present day since their own sin would be exposed like the sins of other wicked with whom they may have acquaintance.  The explanation for this is that a moral agent can’t help but approve of the good that they witness when not annoyed and convicted by it.  God has made us all moral beings.  They even have feelings of love and gratitude to God and respect for and sympathy for those who love God.  They will even be offended at the thought that some may think that they are not sympathetic toward God and others.  They may, because of such feelings and thoughts, think that they are Christians because they think that only a Christian could have such feelings and thoughts.  They think that they are far from being depraved because of all these good desires and feelings.  Don’t forget, saints and sinners may both agree in certain opinions, and intellectual views and judgments.  So many false Christians think that they are saved because of certain desires and feelings but they have totally misunderstood their own character.  There are many religions today that show great displays of emotions which, they think, prove that they are filled with the Holy Spirit.  Far too many false Christians have a hope that they are saved based upon desires and feelings that have nothing to do with being born again.  These feelings are nothing more than human nature which all humans possess whether they are a Christian or not.
  13. Both saints and sinners may both disapprove of and become completely disgusted with sin to the point that they abhor it.  It is part of a moral being deep within his own constitutional make up that he would abhor sin to the bottom of his moral fiber.  They will both express loathing and disgust when they view sin.  Too many preachers try to paint a picture of sinners loving sin and loving it like one would love food and drink but this is not the case. This contradicts the very conscience of the sinner and it leads him either to deny his total depravity because he does not think as it is portrayed or he may even think that he is saved because what is being said does not fit his own consciousness.  If you who read this remember, it is not the sin that the sinner loves for its own sake but it is other things that they crave which leads to the indulgence which is sin.  Adam and Eve only craved food and knowledge which are not wrong unless it is in direct disobedience to God.  The sinner is the same way, he does not really desire to commit the sin, he only has cravings for self-gratification which leads to the thing which he may and often does loath.  The Holy Spirit may come while a person is engaged in something that he knows is wrong and he may be deeply ashamed of himself in such a deep way that he would even spit in his own face.  He may become so disgusted for a time that the feeling of disgust will overtake the feeling of self-indulgence.  It is one selfish feeling becoming more powerful than another selfish desire.  It shows nothing at all about his having any virtue since it is only a change in the form of selfishness being manifested in him.  That is why Romans 7 talks about the man that wants to do good but can’t because it is sin that dwells in him.  When the sinner has self-gratification as the ultimate end in view, changing from one form of selfishness to another does not change the ultimate problem, he has a sin principle; he has a sinful character.  He merely changes from one form of selfish expression to another.  This would explain why so many people seem to be saved when they have no abiding change in their lives.  They get convicted, they begin to have fears awakened, they are disgusted with their own indulgences.  They then abandon their indulgence in order to obey, not the law of God, but to obey their fear, disgust, and shame.  They never really came to know God personally.  The whole thing is really about them and their feelings, nothing more.  Then, when they are no longer under conviction of sin, they go back to the same indulgences that they had before.  The dog truly returns to his own vomit and the sow to her wallowing in the mire.  This is why getting all emotional or depending upon feelings alone puts one in a very weak position.  The sinner can change his feelings and even make a show of being a Christian for awhile but it is only because he has had new feelings that dictate a new behavior.  It is not a principle inside him, it is only a result of excited feelings and emotions.  The next day or the next hour, when self-gratification rears its ugly head and there is no one present to see his sin, he will return to his vomit again.
  14. Both Christians and sinners delight in or approve of justice.  One only needs to view the courts of the land and they will find that even sinners have a deep appreciation for the administration of justice and a hatred for injustice.  Sometimes the strong feelings against injustice are so strong that they burst out like a nuclear bomb and carry the fight against injustice to new heights.  It results, many times, in blood being shed and wars breaking out in the interest of stopping injustice before it grows into a monster that no one can control. We see it in our time with the war against terror.  Both sinners and Christians are alike against the injustices of cultures that harbor so much hatred and injustice to the point that they have designs to take over the world and foster their injustice on all who will succumb to the terror that goes before it like a mighty flood of evil.  Both Christians and sinners alike enjoy the nation that we have, based upon Christian principles, that has become a model for the whole world to follow because of the principles of justice that we have founded upon the principles of the moral law with civil law having many of the same basics.  This does not indicate that all who ascribe to Democracy or that hate terrorism are virtuous Christians because even a love of justice can be for selfish reasons and shows no regeneration of the heart.  We can see similar examples all through society.  Even an Islamic society like that of Iraq is now forming a Democracy because they have more hatred for the injustice of a Saddam Hussein than they do for the thought that this type of government may have Christian values at the core.  It certainly does not prove that Islamic people are virtuous or regenerated.
  15. It is possible for both Christians and sinners to have a constitutional respect for and a delight in truth.  Most people hate a liar, even sinners.  Those that hate liars also love truth, this is constitutional.  Liars do not love lying for its own sake, but because it is a way to promote self-interests, nothing more.  The one that lies would probably hate someone lying to them but because they want that which the lie will obtain for them, some form of self-gratification, they don’t hate falsehood enough to eliminate the lust for that which created the lie in their mind and heart.  Were they to look only at the lie and not at that which the lie obtains, they would hate the lying as much as the Christian but for a different reason, mainly because it makes them look bad.
  16. Both Christians and sinners love good men and they both hate evil men and devils.  Islamic extremists call America the “Great Satan.”  They express hatred for the devil that has deluded them into thinking that they are serving God.  Their religion is a religion that gives self-gratification to their race because it is particular to Arabs in opposition to Jews and Christians of all other peoples.  There is no living man, woman, or child that would act like the love the Devil unless it is someone who is a Satanist and even then the love of Satan is only for the purpose of self-gratification.  They think that by praising Satan they can get “power” to work their magic and evil spells, all for selfish reasons.  You won’t find, however, any average person walking down the street that would not exclaim deep hatred for Satan even though they are following him by the very self-indulgences that they live their lives for.
  17. Both Christians and sinners are often very fair in business and have great business etiquette.  They are equally interested in having a good name in the business community.  It may be for a different ultimate intention, but outward they would appear the same.
  18. As the above remarks will indicate, many times benevolence in the Christian and selfishness in the sinner may produce much the same results.  In some ways one can not tell the difference except for the ultimate intent that shows where the heart really is.
  19. When an impenitent person desires Christian principles enough to influence his will without coming to know God, he will make an outward show of being a Christian by openly acting as if he is obeying the moral law.  His feelings are so strong that he thinks he can copy the Christian by doing the same types of things and putting on the act that he loves God and others.  Even in this his outward show comes from a purely selfish ultimate intent while the Christian has only his personal knowledge of God and his love of obeying Him as a principle in his life.  The thing that will show the difference is time.  The true Christian will stand the test of time.  He will persevere to the end of his life.  The impenitent sinner, however, since he has no root in him from a personal relationship with God, he will return to his former ways in direct proportion as his feelings and emotions subside.  The true Christian will show a personal relationship with God that cannot be shaken, full of love and expectation of God doing great things in His life.  This controls his intelligence, his feelings, and his will as prompted by the Holy Spirit to his own spirit.
  20. Many times both saints and sinners love and hate the same things and yet for differing opposite reasons.  They may both love the Bible, the saint because he knows God and loves anything that he can learn more about the lover of his soul, and the sinner loves the Bible for selfish reasons as a tool that may be used for proving a selfish position or that he is a Christian when he has never repented and come to God as a sinner to place his life in God’s hands both now and forever.  They may both love Christians and yet for opposite reasons; the saint loves them because they are part of his family in Christ and he loves anyone that loves Jesus; the sinner because he thinks that since they are going to heaven, to be associated with them helps his self-esteem so that he feels that he is bound for Heaven along with them, they are his particular friends, they benefit him, and their goodness is a benefit as well. As one could observe, both the Christian and the sinner have the same constitutional feelings toward many things.  For instance they are both affected with the character of God, with truth, the church building, the duties of a Christian, and the plan of salvation.  They may also both hate the same things for different reasons, such as infidelity, error, sin, sinners, and selfishness.  A sinner can actually abhor selfishness in others and in himself but still continue to live from selfish motives and ends.
  21. Selfishness in the sinner and benevolence in a Christian may lead them to form many similar resolutions and purposes in life; they may both wish to serve God, avoid all sin, do their Christian duty, do right, be useful, persevere in well-doing, live for eternal values, set good examples, put high priorities on Sunday worship and other things about religion, and to support their local church.
  22. Saints and sinners may agree in views of doctrine and of measures for living for God and reaching the lost; they may both be zealous for the cause of God and of religion; they may both be equally well-informed; they may both experience delight in prayer and in religious meetings; yes, they may both delight in religious exercises in general.
  23. Both may be changed in feeling and life, one from knowing God personally and the other from trying to emulate Christians for selfish reasons.
  24. Both may give all their goods to feed the poor, or to support the gospel, and to send the gospel to the heathen.
  25. Both may go as missionaries to the lost, but for entirely different reasons.
  26. Both may have convictions of their sin and their sensibilities will both be affected by these convictions in similar ways.
  27. They may both have great sorrow for sin, and they may both loath self because of it.
  28. They may both feel gratitude toward God, one because he knows God personally and the other only because he knows about God but has never turned from self to God for a personal relationship.
  29. They may both appear to show Christian graces, one from personal knowledge of God and the other because he could not allow himself to look like a sinner.
  30. They may both be confident that they are going to heaven.
  31. They may both have new hopes and fears, new joys and sorrows, new friends and new enemies, new habits in life.
  32. They may both be comforted by promises and awed by threatenings;  one because the promises and threatenings come from the God that he knows personally and the other from a hope that the promises are for himself while hoping that the threatenings are for someone else.
  33. They may both claim to have answers to prayer.
  34. They may both appear that they have renounced the world;  the Christian because he has come to know God and the sinner because he hopes that this action shows that he knows God, though he does not really know Him personally.
  35. They may both practice self-denial.  The Christian truly denies himself but the sinner only appears to deny self in the process of denying one form of selfishness in behalf of another.
  36. They may both believe in miracles.  Who has not seen a Catholic that does not believe in the miracle of Fatima.  Yet the scriptures say, “And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.”– 1 Corinthians 13:2.
  37. They may both suffer as martyrs for completely different reasons.  No one will deny that Islamic extremists will willingly give their lives, but it is for selfish reasons to promote their self-gratification religion where the picture is a paradise of self pleasure.  This is not disinterested benevolence.  This is selfishness to the very depths of evil. This is also true in the Christian realm.  Many are the examples of like sacrifice for selfish reasons in the name of Christianity. “And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.” (1 Corinthians 13:3)
  38. Both may be confident that they are saved and die with the hope of being with Christ and yet God will say to them as we see in Luke:  “Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.” (Luke 13:26-27)

EVIDENCE YOU ARE NOT SAVED AND HAVE INTELLECTUAL FAITH WHICH IS NOT SAVING FAITH

What is not considered to be faith

Though the Bible at times describes faith as intellectual assent to some truth or cause,  it is really not the true intent of what faith is.  So many times we think of faith as an undoubting persuasion, a firm conviction, or an unhesitating intellectual assent.  This is not the Bible or evangelical sense of what is being said.  Nothing could be mere intellect if it is considered virtue, because virtue is not indicated by one’s intellectual state of mind.  God could never command faith as a condition of salvation with the threat of eternal death to any who will not believe if it were nothing more than a passive state of the mind.  There is a distinct difference in the Bible when discussing the contrast of intellectual with saving faith.  Devils have intellectual faith, they believe and tremble as it says in the book of James and yet devils have no virtue.  They do not act upon their faith.  They believe that there is a God but they work overtime to contend with Him and to bring people to the hell that will be their eventual home one day.  No one in their right mind would consider the faith of devils to be a solemn duty, the failure of which would mean certain death in hell.  They are going to hell believing in God.  They have an intellectual conviction, but they don’t have saving faith.

James 2:17-26  “Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.  (18)  Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.  (19)  Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.  (20)  But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?  (21)  Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?  (22)  Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?  (23)  And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.  (24)  Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.  (25)  Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?  (26)  For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.”

We can see a clear difference between intellectual faith and saving faith.  Intellectual faith does not produce spiritual growth that manifests itself in actions of the will and a showing of good works to the world.  Intellectual faith does not love God with all the heart and soul and mind.  Devils do not love God with all the heart and soul and mind.  Yet the Bible says that they believe.  They do not have saving faith and neither does anyone else that has the kind of faith that produces no more fruit than a demon from hell.

Not only can we say that faith is not intellectual belief, but we can also say that faith is not some form of sensibility, some form of emotions, passive states of the mind themselves, that are really totally involuntary.  It cannot be faith unless it produces virtue or unless the choice itself is considered to be virtue.  The virtue that we define as faith is a virtue that consists of “works of love” and produces obedience because of that love for God who sent His Son Jesus to die for our sins.  We are sanctified by the faith that is in Christ Jesus..  This kind of faith is the whole foundation of the Christian life and it is true faith that causes one to desire to live holy.

Joey:

I don’t think you get it.  You can produce 1000 people who are heretics like you but it won’t change what the Bible says.  I purposely did not “research” because I did not need to do so.  I found enough to prove my point.  If even one of your “experts” has repented because it was false doctrine, why would I waste time on others?  The point is this, send me 10,000 people that are heretics, what does it matter?  THEY ARE ALL WRONG BECAUSE THEY DON’T BELIEVE THE CLEAR TEACHING OF THE BIBLE.

EVIDENCES OF YOUR UNBELIEF SHOWING THAT YOU ARE LOST – YOU ARE A LIAR

The implications of unbelief

  1. The first implication of unbelief is that light has been presented and there is a perception of the truth in the mind.  If unbelief were just a negation, an inactive state of the will, it would not suggest that the truth had been perceived and the light had shown.  An example of this is the culture of certain places in the world where there is no gospel presentation so the people of that culture cannot be guilty of unbelief in something of which they have never heard.  The Bible talks about just that:

Romans 10:14  “How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?”

The heathen have no light of the gospel so they cannot reject it.  The guilt of the heathen is not that of rejecting the gospel but that rejecting the only light that they have, namely nature.  That is the thing that also condemns an atheist, by the way.

Romans 1:19-22  “Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.  (20)  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:  (21)  Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.  (22)  Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,”

This type of unbelief is not rejection of the Gospel but rejection of the light that is revealed.  My father was a missionary in the primitive areas of Africa for many years and he said that the Natives, primitive as they were, know that the false “god” that they worshiped was “Satana.”  They were very aware of evil spirits.  He also tells of a tribe that found a small portion of the Bible and it became their foundation for belief until a missionary came that revealed more truth to them which they also received.  God gave them more light because they received the light that they had.

  1.  The next implication of unbelief is that of obstinate selfishness.  It may be only one aspect of selfishness but as we have seen previously, it is still the spirit of self-seeking.  The will has committed itself to self gratification and self indulgence.  So when we come to defining unbelief, we are saying that selfishness is applied to revelations regarding the truth of God.  To be unbelief, there must be a resistance to revealed truth about God as they are revealed to the intellect and to the spirit.  We have already discussed how the spirit of a man knows things that cannot be explained in the rational world, but they are true non-the-less.  We have also talked about truths that have the requirement of evidence to back them up.  When a person rejects both types of truth, with strong evidence that gives light to the truth, it is unbelief. The intellect cannot remain neutral when light is shown into the mind and heart.  They must either accept the truth or willingly reject it.  Unbelief is a selfish obstinate attitude that refuses to yield to obvious truth and that for purely selfish reasons.
  2. Unbelief implies the existence in the life of the individual of total depravity.  If truth is presented and the heart rejects only for selfish reasons, there is no other explanation but that it was sin present in the life.  No one can conform to the law and will of God when there is a resistance to known truth present in the life.

Romans 7:19-23  “For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.  (20)  Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.  (21)  I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.  (22)  For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:  (23)  But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.”

  1.  To take unbelief further, it is the rejection of all truth that is perceived to be inconsistent with their own selfish wishes and desires and they know it..  They would only receive truth if it were for selfish reasons.  When this is done, it is not faith.  The reason is that when more truth comes to the selfish person which they cannot apply to their soul for selfish reasons they will reject it, thus proving that they were receiving only part of the truth as it suited their own selfish tastes and desires.
  2. We have previously shown that where there is one selfish trait that all are equally present in various degrees and forms.  Some are yet undeveloped but they are still there.  All sinners are guilty of unbelief and the degree of that unbelief is in direct proportion to their selfishness in rejecting the various amounts of light that they have received.  In heathen lands, they reject the light of nature and in Christian lands they reject the truth of the Gospel message.  Unbelief in any man is such that the heart is not only void of all good but filled with every form of sin as well.  These forms of sin are in the heart of the unbeliever awaiting the right occasion to burst forth on the scene in their life in all the ugliness of horrid manifestation and iniquity.  This is why those who follow Islam are all like loaded cannons.  It is not that they are “criminals” or “murderers” but that they have all the traits of selfishness that is part of their religion where  their fake wanabe “god” Allah asks them to kill in his unholy name.  A real God could never request that of his subjects since he binds himself under the same law of love that we have discussed in this book.  For that reason, any self centered Islamic believer is a bomb ready to go off.  No one knows when they will want to answer the ultimate of all selfish desires, that of dying in order to be in “Paradise” with a host of beautiful maidens will become the over powering desire and motivate them to take the ultimate religious step, suicide in an act of killing as many “heretics” as they can.  It is only a matter of time with anyone that has not the God of Love as their ultimate end, Jesus Christ.
  3. Unbelief also implies a degree of rejection of truth perceived so that the greater the truth, the more evil the rejection of that truth.  Thus the degree of the unbelief is directly proportional to the degree of the light revealed and ultimately rejected by the unbeliever.
  4. Similarly, unbelief implies that the degree of guilt is in direct proportion to the degree of light and rejection of light and truth.  We will discuss that in another area.
  5. Impenitence is implied by the state of unbelief.  The mark of a penitent soul is that as truth is revealed, it is also received.  There is an eagerness to continually embrace more and more truth as it is revealed which brings joy and peace to the soul.  When unbelief is present, there may be a semblance of belief in one or two areas, but eventually the true nature of the heart is revealed by the final rejection of all truth that is not in the best selfish interest of the professing believer.  He is really an unbeliever after all.
  6. Unbelief implies enmity against God, resistance to the truth, and a distinct dislike and resistance to the very government of the God of truth.
  7. Unbelief not only implies enmity against God, but mortal enmity against God.  It wants nothing of the truth and authority of God so much so that it is actually opposed to the very existence of God, the God of truth.  Unbelief is like a cancer that would annihilate not only truth, but the very God of truth if it were possible.  A perfect example of this is the rejection, betrayal, and eventual execution of the very Man of Truth, Jesus Christ.  The unbelief of the religious leaders and of Judas reached its ultimate end, the death of the loving Son of God.  Unbelievers of our day would do the same thing.  Islam is not against Israel because they have done so many heinous acts against them, they are against Israel because they are the nation that represents the true God and the one through whom Jesus Christ came to earth.  It is the ultimate rejection of revealed truth which, in many instances, culminates in the suicide of one and the innocent deaths of others as a result.  Even those that don’t go so far, non-religious people included are just as guilty of the blood of Christ and are guilty of the murder of God’s Son on the cross by their very rejection of the truth about Him.
  8. Unbelief thus implies a supreme enmity against God.  The greater the revealed light and subsequent rejection of that light, the greater the enmity against the God of light.  This cannot but grow and become more supreme until it means a person would gladly rather be in hell than in any proximity to the God of truth in heaven.  Some even brag about their friends and the party they will have in hell.  What a pity.
  9. Again, unbelief implies a degree of wickedness that is as great as it can be for the amount of rejection and truth involved in the present time in a person’s life.  It is resistance to the truth and refusal to receive benevolence for any reason.  Just as the highest degree of virtue is complete love to God and others, so the highest degree of unbelief is hatred of God and one’s neighbor.  It becomes the all consuming passion, that of fulfilling all wickedness  in order to refuse to conform to any truth that God has revealed.  It rejects duty completely and tramples on all moral obligation.
  10. Further, this rejection of truth and of god is actually charging God with being a liar.  We have a similar thing in our country where one political party has accused the President of the United States with being a liar about going to war. The bible says,

1 John 5:10  “He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.”

  1. Unbelief is actually a state of lying.  Unbelief is the greatest of all lies.  Unbelief declares in the face of all light and all truth, which it knows to be true, that the Gospel is a lie and that the Author, God, is a liar as well.  Is that not a lie in and of itself, to call God a liar?
  2. Consequently, unbelief implies a reckless disregard of all rights and interests of every one else except for self.
  3. Unbelief implies the contempt and trampling under of the law, the relations to moral law, and even the conscience of the spirit within.
  4. Finally, unbelief not only is a lie of itself, but it embraces the opposite of truth, the ultimate lie that one can live without God.  This is what caused Satan to fall and become the father of all liars.  When one rejects God, they are actually accepting the father of liars Satan himself.  Rejecting of truth implies the accepting of error.  In conclusion, we state that on every occasion where the truth of God is revealed, if it is rejected there is a complete commitment to the whole root of sin in the life, selfishness.

Liar, the truth is presented and you reject it as a true unbeliever would.

Liar, truth is presented and you only show that you are bound for hell.

YOU HAVE SHUT GOD OUT FROM YOUR SPIRIT AND YOUR EVIL LYING MIND IS EVIDENCE

The guilt and ill-desert of unbelief

We have already seen that the guilt of sin and unbelief is exposed by the very fact that it is committed with the same light and intellectual understanding of the revelations of the spirit that are present in one who believes.  This means that when a person purposefully rejects the knowledge of salvation they are doing it with a full understanding that they are rejecting the truth and they are choosing rather to believe a lie.  The same measure of the light that is present when a person rejects the truths concerning God is also the measure of the guilt that condemns them for their unbelief.  While all sin has this quality, it is strongly demonstrated in the sin of unbelief which is actually rejection of the very light that others see in the act of faith.  This is selfishness to the highest degree, it is rejecting known truth for selfish purposes.  The degree of guilt is directly linked to the degree of light rejected.  This is the clear teaching of the Bible.

When we speak of light, we speak of truth.  When light is received it means that truth is known or perceived.  First truths of reason are truths that are known by all moral agents universally so that when the will refuses to act according to any first truth then it is guilty of unbelief.  The spirit of every man knows intuitively that there is infinite value in the highest well-being of God and of the universe so that it is obvious that a moral agent must embrace the truth as a condition of promoting this great end.  When viewed in this context, unbelief implies infinite guilt and blameworthiness.  There may be varying degrees, but it is still unbelief, none-the-less.

Natural and governmental consequences of faith and unbelief

Natural consequences are those that flow from the inward thought  of the mind and governmental are those that relate to the administration of moral government with its constitution and laws.

  1. Faith brings peace to the conscience.  When the will receives truth and yields, the conscience is satisfied and a man begins to be at peace with himself.   The soul can now respect itself and live life without a blush as it were.  There must be this faith in perceived truth as a condition of man being at peace with himself..  The governmental consequence is peace with God:

l  Now God is satisfied, the soul has obeyed.  The soul has yielded to the influence of the truth, to be influenced by it, comprising all duty.

l  Faith also results in peace with God in the sense that it is a condition of pardon and acceptance.  The penalty of the law for  sins has been satisfied because of the faith in Jesus Christ.  Though God forgives all sins, past, present, and future, the soul needs present and future obedience to be at peace with itself.  Justification will be discussed later on in this work.

  1. Unbelief brings self-condemnation.  This is a natural law of the mind and spirit.  The conscience condemns and the mind cannot justify the fact that it has rejected known truth.  This is especially true of truths that relate to obedience of a moral agent.  Since the highest well being of God and the universe are neglected, God must condemn and abhor such unbelief because it seeks to undermine the very well being of God and of the universe as a whole.  Governmentally there must be a legal condemnation since no government can justify the rejection of known truth, especially when it relates to the obedience of the subject to and the highest well being of the ruler of the government.  God must condemn and abhor all unbelief, and the conscience condemns such rejection and pronounces its own judgment against it as well.
  2. A holy life is an obedient life and by a natural law it is the life of faith.  Since faith is an act of the will that controls the life, it follows that when the heart receives truth, the life will be conformed to it.
  3. An unholy life is a disobedient life and by a natural law it is the life of unbelief.  If the heart rejects truth, the act of will that controls the life will also conform to the state of unbelief that rejected the truth.
  4. Faith in the life will also develop every form of virtue in heart and life as certain situations arise.  The reason is that faith is the act of committing the will to truth and to the God of truth.  Thus, as various situations arise, faith will seek the truth for every situation and on all subjects.  The result will be that every form of virtue will have been formed in the heart and will manifest itself in the life of the individual.
  5. Unbelief, on the other hand will develop resistance to the truth on every subject of life, especially if there is a conflict with self-interest or self-gratification.  The result will be that every form of self interest will manifest itself in the life since the ultimate end of self-gratification knows no limits in its creativity in reaching that ultimate end.  Every form of selfish that exists will manifest itself in one way or another in order to achieve that ultimate end.  Interestingly enough, there are times when one form of selfishness will cause other forms to cease to exist as a means to the ultimate end of self-gratification.  A selfish state of religious attitude will necessarily exclude attitudes inconsistent with that attitude but it is still selfishness after all.
  6. Faith obtains help from God who loves to help any who will come to Him by faith and He remains ready to hear and answer their prayers.  God even helps those who have no faith out of his own character, but his protection and aid are given to those who are obedient to the laws of faith.
  7. Faith is a condition that results in heart-obedience to God’s commands.  No one could honestly give up their whole being in obedience to God without confidence in him.  It is a sign of universal faith when there is universal obedience since confidence in God results in this kind of obedience.
  8. Unbelief, on the other hand naturally and necessarily results in heart disobedience to God.
  9. Faith also results in lovely and delightful emotions and states of feeling that can be seen in one who has embraced Christ as Savior and Lord.  These are emotions associated with the action of the will and with believing the truths of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
  10. On the other hand, unbelief results in emotions of remorse, regret, pain, and agony – the frequent experience of an unbeliever.
  11. Faith lets God into the soul and spirit to reign there.  It receives the atonement and work of mediator that Christ performs as the Redeemer, and it also receives Christ as king on the throne of the heart, securing communion with God.
  12. Unbelief shuts God out from the soul, it refuses to have Him reign in the heart.  It also shuts the soul out from the work of Christ as mediator and from a life of communion with God.

These are just hints of natural and governmental consequences of faith and unbelief and do not exhaust the subject.  One may pursue these thoughts to further conclusions.  Along this vein of thought, we remark that none of the ways, commandments, or appointments of God are arbitrary.  He always conforms himself to the same moral law as is required of moral creatures.  Unbelief makes salvation impossible both naturally and governmentally.  God could never arbitrarily save one who has unbelief controlling his life.  He can only conform to the law of faith and unbelief, nothing more.

YOUR EVIL MIND OF UNBELIEF THAT GOD WILL JUDGE IN HELL

Defining unbelief

The term, unbelief, as the Bible represents it, is a phenomena of the will and as a result it is considered to be a sin.  For unbelief to be a sin condemned by God it must be voluntary as a state of the will that is the opposite of faith.  Where faith is the reception of the will of truth, unbelief is a contrasting rejecting of truth.  Unbelief occurs when the soul, but more particularly the will, withholds confidence in truth and especially in the God of truth.  Unbelief occurs when the heart sees the evidence but it refuses to be influenced by it and consequently rejects it willingly.  It is where evidence is presented as a proffer in a legal case and then the will rejects that proffer and refuses to seek further evidence that would support the case.  Instead of, as they say, following the path of the evidence, unbelief will intellectually reject the path no matter where it leads purely as a decision of the will.  The mind receives light through the conscience and through the Holy Spirit who moves on the heart through various circumstances and instances in the heart and life of a person.  When that mind sees what is light and truth but still refuses to follow the path of truth but stubbornly resists and willingly rejects what others see as evidence, then it is unbelief.  When it comes to infidelity as it respects unbelief, the infidel sees what others accept as light and they take special pains to shut their eyes to the obvious.  Atheists are that way.  I once had lengthy correspondence with an atheist to the point that I sent him many powerful scientific facts that pointed to the existence of a creator as opposed to evolution, but he was so set in his opposition to God, that I finally asked him a question that exposes his reasons.  I asked if he were married, he said no, that he was living with a woman outside of marriage.  Immediately it became apparent that his opposition to the truth was an attempt to keep his guilt for living an immoral life from affecting his peace of mind.  He chose not to see the obvious scientific evidence so that he could continue to live in his state of self-gratification with an unholy sexual relationship.  It really had nothing to do with skeptical doubts of the intellect at all.  It was a choice that he could not accept the truth or his life style would be exposed to his conscience and that could not be tolerated in his own mind.

 

 

 

INTELLECT SHOWING YOUR LOST CONDITION

 

Intelligence is another attribute of selfishness.  We mean that it is a phenomenon of the will so that the choice of self-gratification is an intelligent choice that can be made with reason and knowledge of the moral ramifications of the choice as it is made.  The mind knows and it cannot mistake the choice as the opposite of why it was made.  It is intelligent choice because it is known to be resistance against the conscience which asks for the choice to be made as disinterested benevolence and it knowingly reject this choice and rather chooses the opposite.  It is intelligent in knowingly deciding that self-gratification is preferred to all higher interests.  Intelligence is such that the mind will argue with the conscience with strong reasons to explain why the selfish choice was better than the right choice, the benevolent choice.

 

YOUR UNREASONABLENESS SHOWS YOUR LOST CONDITION

 

Unreasonableness is another attribute of selfishness.  Here, the conscience of the spirit is plainly telling the moral agent what the right choice is and yet the moral agent knowingly and unreasonably chooses the opposite of what is right.  It goes so far as to make unreasonable excuses in the mind of the moral agent that defy the conscience of the spirit and dethrone it from its normal position of caution in the person.  It then puts blind desire in the position that the conscience of the spirit should occupy with an abandon that is mystifyingly unreasonable.  It is so unreasonable that it denies the attribute that would ally a man to God, his spirit, and make him capable of virtue and then it sinks him to the level of a mere animal. Is it any wonder that the evolutionist has such strong influence in our world?  Those who ascribe to that unreasonable hypothesis do so knowing that they have contempt for the voice of God which is speaking to the intuition of the spirit and they accept an unreasonable pseudo-science instead of clear evidence to the contrary only because they have such contempt for God.  They don’t want the best end for themselves, namely, that they are spiritual beings created in the image of God, but rather they would unreasonably assume that they are barely higher than a brute beast of the forest.  One can see by their unreasonable life styles and the world culture that this creates why this is so demeaning to God’s highest creation, man.  Now that man is reduced to a brute beast every act or choice of the will is altogether unreasonable.  Do we wonder why there are men who beat their wives?  Do we wonder why there are child molesters, pedophiles, and child killers running rampant throughout society?  It is because a sinner has become so unreasonable that the reason of the conscience of the spirit has long since passed from their minds.  The Bible says, “…madness is in their heart while they live.”  They have made the unreasonable choice of a selfish end so many times that all choices are made to carry out this selfish end, self-gratification and nothing more.  Any sinner who has not been converted or saved is living in a state of unreasonable choices in every instance in direct opposition to the conscience of the spirit until they submit to the voice of God and repent of this self life.  They are not unreasonable sometimes, but they are uniformly unreasonable to one degree or another as long as they remain selfish in their ultimate intent.  The only time a sinner makes the first reasonable choice is when he turns to God, repents of his self life and becomes a Christian.  This is the very first time that he makes a practical decision that has the wisdom and intelligence of the spirit.  Before that the sinner has denied his position as a being created in the image of God and has rejected his obligation to both God and his neighbor. We would like to point out the worst in society as being unreasonable as if there are other sinners who are less so but the truth is that all sinners who refuse to repent and turn to God are totally unreasonable.  There is not a sinner on the earth that is not acting in direct opposition to the conscience of the spirit and they know that they are wrong.  It is almost as if it were better for a sinner if they never had a spirit.  They not only act without consulting conscience, intuition, or communion but they are sternly determined to be in opposition to God at all cost, even to the damning of their immortal souls.

This unreasonable mind set goes so far that they not only oppose God and all that is moral and right, but they oppose Him in as aggravated a manner as possible.  What can be more unreasonable than to choose an end that will put their soul in a devil’s hell?  It defies reason, something that God has given every man to make right choices.  The mind of the spirit has spread before it the eternal and infinite.  It sees the interests of God and of the universe as having infinite value.  It begs him to consecrate himself to these interests and even promises endless rewards in heaven if he would only submit to God, but the sinner is unreasonable.  He turns away and consecrates himself to the gratification of his desires with a most preposterous and blasphemous choice.  One has to wonder why it is that sinners do not see that it is impossible to insult God more or to shame and degrade themselves more than they do with their choice of beastly selfishness?  Total universal and shameless unreasonableness is the universal characteristic of every selfish mind, every lost sinner.

Unreasonableness goes into every segment of society.  We see it in husband and wife arguments.  We see it in false religions like Islam, where young people will commit suicide in order to kill people that believe in the one true God. We see it in crimes against humanity.  We see it in politicians who cater to special interests and will lie and dig up dirt against an opponent to such a degree that they will even unreasonably doctor the evidence in order to make their case and win an election.  We see it in a political party blindly and unreasonably standing behind an impeached president like dumb animals rather than see that they are destroying the system that makes this country great.  We see it in unreasonable accusations against a president who has declared war on terrorists who are unrepentant sinners unreasonably attacking a Christian nation because their religion calls for Jihad.  They would rather undermine their own country by discouraging the military effort than allow the president of another party the chance to protect the very country that they love.  Unreasonableness is certainly a glaring attribute of selfishness.  We see it in persons who accept a heresy like Kingdom Exclusion against all evidence to the contrary and they work overtime to find persons in history that will agree with their heinous false demonic premise only because they want to show themselves superior to others in direct opposition to every evidence against their cultic evil heretical and unscriptural dogma.  They will compass land and sea as the Pharisees to make one proselyte and then make them more a child of hell than themselves.  They can’t stand someone going to heaven without incurring the ROD OF GOD in unrighteous judgment against those poor sinners who have barely been saved and they are so heinous in their heresy that they actually delight to see Christians cast into outer darkness even though God has paid for their sin through the death of Jesus Christ on the cross.  In short, they know that they are bound for hell but they fantasize that they are the FAITHFUL FEW that will escape the RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENT OF GOD against those evil believers who are not as holy as they are.  They are so unreasonable that unless the greatest soul-winner in the world ascribes to their heresy in a book like “Salvation is More Than Being Saved” by Jack Hyles, they will say that he ALMOST got it right but did not understand their pet dogma of Kingdom Exclusion even though they have seen strong evidence that such a dogma does not exist.

YOUR SELFISHNESS ADHERENCE TO KE EVIDENCE OF YOUR UNBELIEF

 

Unbelief is also another form or modification of selfishness.  Unbelief is not just the negation or absence of faith.  Faith, an attribute of benevolence, is a quality which commits the soul to truth and to the God of truth with veracity securing its end.  Unbelief, on the other hand, withholds confidence and refuses to trust God and thus to commit to the truth. Faith commits to truth in specific executive acts.  It commits the life and whole being to be molded and influenced by truth.  Unbelief, on the other hand, withholds specific acts of confidence in God and truth as if to say, “I will take care of my interests, let God take care of His.”  In effect, unbelief is saying, “Who is God?  Why should I serve Him?”  Unbelief is that characteristic that refuses to get guidance from God and rather trusts in our own guidance.  It is self-trust, self-dependence; thus it is selfishness and self-seeking.  “How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?” (John 5:44)  Under this trait, the self-seeking spirit renders faith impossible. Thus every sinner who has heard the gospel of Jesus Christ and has not embraced it has withheld confidence from Christ because in the mind of the sinner, it will cost too much of self to yield this confidence and let go.  They don’t believe in the phrase, let go and let God. In fact, they are strongly opposed to such a statement.  Unbelief is a selfish withholding of this confidence in God and committal to God.  True faith consists in renouncing selfishness in relation to confidence in Christ and the gospel.

YOUR EFFICIENCY IN OPPOSITION TO TRUTH SHOWS YOUR LOST CONDITION

 

Efficiency is another attribute of selfishness.  Desire never produces any action until it has convinced the will for that action to take place.  Desire has no efficiency or causality of its own and without the agreement of the will it cannot get the attention of the intellect or cause any muscle of the body to move.  The causality that resides in the will does so because of the power of accomplishment.  For that reason, efficiency helps accomplishment to achieve the ultimate end by whatever means possible.  The will either chooses an end or it chooses a means to accomplish that end.  When there is choice it means that something is chosen and that it is chosen for a reason.  The ultimate reason for any choice and the thing chosen are identical as we have seen previously.  That being said, the means cannot be chosen without an end in view so that the end is actually distinct from the means of achieving that end and although the choice of an end is not the same as the means, yet there must be an end in view so that there are means developed to achieve that end.  For that reason when there is an end in view, the will is very efficient in creating various means of achieving that end.  This is true of selfishness where the end is self-gratification and the will works wondrous means to achieve that end.  It also works for benevolence where the will finds means to honor God and live for others.  The ends are opposite and they produce respective results but both are very efficient in accomplishing the end chosen.  The Bible says that sinners have eyes full of adultery that cannot cease from sin; the will is so committed to the indulgence of selfish interests that it cannot cease from the indulgence in means to this end.  The only way for such a sinner to escape from sin is for him to cease to be selfish; while selfishness continues, one can deny one appetite for another but the end desire is still sinful selfishness.  This selfish desire goes all the way to a desire to escape hell and to reach heaven in which case the selfishness takes on a very sanctimonious flavor.  The will is following the desire for heaven and missing hell, but the root is still a selfish indulgence that is wearing the garment of wanting to obey God.  Is it any wonder that the church is so full of selfish individuals that are marching to the beat of the devil’s drum beat and they have no idea that they are only steps away from falling right into hell while the pride themselves with selfish glee that they are on their way to heaven.  The underlying motive of their life is self.  The whole life and activity of all sinners is founded in this same self-indulgent spirit.  This is what forms the basis of their life or, should we say, their spiritual death. They are dead in trespasses and sins.  How can they possibly ever do good without relinquishing their selfishness.  As long as selfishness continues they cannot act in any way but to accomplish selfish ends.  So while the will remains committed to a selfish end, self-interest, or self-gratification, it cannot promote a benevolent end.  The thing that needs to change is the end so that the sinner can cease from their bent toward sinning.  When the ultimate end changes, some of the things that the sinner was doing as selfish acts will suddenly become holy because the end has changed.  Conversely while the end is selfish, it does not matter how holy the sinner seems to be, he is merely a sanctified act with an end of pure selfishness.  He can eat, drink, labor, or even preach, but as long as it is for self, the end is wrong and that means that the person is wrong, a sinner.  Now, change the end, make it benevolence as God says, and suddenly much of what the sinner was doing can now be done for the glory of God.  “Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.” (1 Corinthians 10:31)  A person with the right end in view will not be able to choose anything but using all means to promote God and the good of the universe.  Let’s enumerate what we are saying here:

l  All actions consist in or result from choices.

l  All choice is made with either the end in view or a means to reach that end in view.  The mind will only choose when there is an object regarded as the means or end.

l  The mind can only have one ultimate end at one time.

l  It will not use a means without having chosen an end first.

l  It will not choose one end and use means to accomplish another at the same time.

l  Therefore, while the will has a commitment to the glory of God and the good of the universe it is impossible that it would use the means for self-gratification while it has the right end in view.

l  Conversely, when the will is committed to self-indulgence, it cannot use means designed to glorify God and promote the good of men as an end.  It is impossible.

l  The Bible tells us that the carnal mind cannot help but sin; “Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.” (Romans 8:7)  It is enmity against God and cannot do right, only sin.

l   The renewed regenerate heart cannot sin in the sense of an unsaved person who has no influence of the Holy Spirit and has no goal in life but to live for self gratification. Remember sin is defined as ultimate choice of an end. Since a person is saved his ultimate choice is benevolence; love to God and to man. That will never change or he was never converted. “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” (1 John 3:9)  One might ask, how is this possible?  Are we saying that a person that is saved is sinlessly perfect? Yes, he is in the sense that he will never have an ulterior motive or have self-gratification as his end. “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” (2 Corinthians 5:21) He now has the mind of Christ. He is growing in grace and is sinless in the eyes of God. Let the scripture state it clearly, “For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.”(1 Corinthians 2:16) “I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.” (Romans 7:25)  As it says here, as long as the flesh, selfish interests, is in control, the person is serving the law of sin, selfishness.  Only when we receive Christ by faith do we get the mind of Christ and cease from the choice of a wrong end in our life.  So, can a Christian temporarily lapse into selfishness as a life goal after salvation?  No, he cannot!  He is forever changed! “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.”  (Romans 8:1-14) He may do something fleshly but he can never have an ultimate goal of self-gratification!  “Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”  (2 Corinthians 5:17) Remember, after salvation his whole ultimate goal and end is the glory of God and the good of the universe.  He has been born of God and does not desire selfish ends. He is a new creature. He can repent and confess his sin daily and be forgiven.  He has an advocate with the Father if he sins, Jesus Christ.  “My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” (1 John 2:1-2)  The Christian’s ultimate end will always be to glorify God and live for others or he is not saved.  His flesh may cause some temporary sin, but the Holy Spirit will not allow that to be the end chosen for itself and thus he will repent; he never really changes his ultimate direction. His spirit is now alive through the Holy Spirit living in the believer which influences the conscience of the believer to confess sin and live a holy life. If a person claims to be saved, lives in sin and does not repent, it is further evidence that they were only putting on a show and there was a selfish motive all along.  The dog truly returns to his own vomit, selfishness.  “Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.”  (Matthew 12:33)  “A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.” (Matthew 12:35)  “Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.”  (James 3:11-12) “For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.”  (Luke 6:43-45)

This is what efficiency is all about, if there is a will there is a way to either do evil or to have the mind of Christ.  In this generation there is far too much teaching about the fact that we cannot live holy and that a Christian can and does sin constantly so the feeling is that we live sin fettered lives. Some even teach that a Christian can be in bondage to sin.  Preposterous!  However, let some preacher come and preach what is being said here-that a Christian can live without sin as the life goal-and you will see just how efficiency works. A righteous person will be very efficient in cleaning up their lives to show the holiness that a Christian should show. The true Christian sees the intrinsic value of Jesus Christ his Savior so much that he could not think of making a mock of the wonderful salvation that has been so freely given.  How could he sin and live for self when Jesus gave all for him?  How could he do less than give up all and live for Christ completely after all he has done for sinners?  He therefore repents and ceases from sin.  If the flesh ever raises its ugly head the Christian will be quick to confess and renounce any sin.  He is learning how to live for God.  On the other hand, the false Christian will constantly try to find verses in the Bible that bolster their hope of being saved because they know deep down inside that they cannot possibly live a holy life since they are only doing their benevolent deeds from selfish motives which proves that their whole life is that of a godless sinner with a good act. They are not “in Christ” and they are not “new creatures.”  If you are reading this book and fear for your immortal soul, is it worth spending eternity in hell for the defense of your wrong selfish position rather than to repent of your selfishness and throw your feet at the God of mercy and love?  Do you see the value of Jesus Christ to your soul?  Do you see how just God would be to allow you to be cast into hell?  Do you see just how important it is to repent and come clean for God?  His yoke is not hard; it is easy and His burden is light.  God loves you and wants only the very best end for you; he wants your happiness. He can’t do that unless you give Him all.  He lives for that end for all creatures of His creation.  When a person truly repents and turns the direction of their life from self to the good of God and the universe, it takes a lifetime of learning and training the flesh to follow the lead of the spirit in your life.  But that is what efficiency is all about.  It constantly sees areas for improvement and makes them while coming to God with confession and submission to keep the heart holy before a holy God.  On the other hand, efficiency on the part of the sinner is to go on sinning with the goal of self-gratification and efficiency will constantly find excuses for explaining the wrong and it will also find verses in the Bible that seem to defend their self-gratification as something that is part of the “sin nature” or some other explanation that sooths a conscience that is screaming at them to repent and turn to God with all their heart, soul, and strength.  Efficiency of selfishness always makes a way to live close to the world and have a pseudo-Christian persona that defies the teaching of the Bible.  The selfish are apt to say something like, “Why should the Devil have all the good music” and use their efficiency to create “so-called Christian” words so that they can have the style and beat that their self-indulgent lost soul loves so much that they would shun the clear teaching of the Scripture regarding songs and hymns and spiritual songs.  Efficiency is what keeps the counterfeit Christian living as close to the world as possible.  They just could not think of letting go and letting God.  They would not want to be too religious and holy.  They only do what desire dictates and they desire their lifestyle and music.  They will even go so far as to create their own Christian Rock ‘n Roll group to sing in church.  Oh, how efficient they are in making excuses why that evil music is good in church.  Oh, how efficient they are in defending a mode of dress that is immodest for women and demeaning for men.  Oh, how efficient they are in excusing a life style that differs not one inch from the godless sinner who would never darken the door of a church.  They are so efficient.  They think that they have fooled everyone, but they have not fooled God.  He will still cast them into hell in the end.

I want to make one more point before we go on.  As you will recall from our earlier discussions, we are merely talking about the overall motive in a person’s life and we are saying that God only requires what is possible for a moral agent to do fitting his nature and relations.  We are not making a person sprout wings here, only saying that with the intrinsic value of a relationship with a God of love and with the efficiency as we have described it, there is no reason to even suggest that the moral agent cannot live a life with the Glory of God and the happiness of others as the end in view with no strain and according to the nature and relations of all moral agents.  God is only asking us to do what we have the ability to do if we love God and we let go and let God in our lives or if we forsake selfish ends.  The truth is that if we have a selfish end in view we will forever believe that God is a tyrant requiring of us what we cannot do and then giving a good show to fool all that know us.  But God is not fooled and the same efficiency that makes a sinner seem to be a saint will utterly fail in the day of judgment because only God can raise the dead and after a person has passed into eternity the sham will be over and in hell they will cry out that they never really had confidence in God at all.

Do you really see Him?  Do you see how much value he has to your life?  Jesus is the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords.  Jesus is all in all.  Jesus is the love of God and has power to raise the dead.  Jesus wants the very best for your life.  Jesus gave himself for your sins and raised for your power over sin.  Jesus wants to make your life happier than it has ever been and will answer your prayers and give you a place in heaven.  His intrinsic value to each of us is infinite.  There is not a day or a moment in our lives that having Jesus Christ as part of that moment will make it far more pleasant as if we were walking in heaven on earth.  Don’t you think that most of the problem is that we are looking at self far too much and failing to see Jesus and His blessed glory to our souls?  The whole purpose of God is to get eyes off of self and get them on God and living for the happiness of others.  It is time to fall in love with Jesus and tell him that whatever he wants us to do and wherever he wants us to God if He goes with us we will go anywhere.  He is the treasure in the field that a man wanted so bad that he sold all that he had to buy the field just for the treasure in the field.  He is the pearl of great price.  He is the Rose of Sharon and the Lily of the Valley.  Who would want to live a life without Him in every moment and having a part of every decision and helping every relationship?

YOUR OPPOSITION TO THE TRUTH I HAVE SHOWED YOU SHOWS YOUR LOST CONDITION

 

Opposition to benevolence, or to virtue, or to holiness and true Christianity that preaches repentance and holiness, is one of the attributes of selfishness.  It is not a mere negation but a choice of self-gratification as the supreme and ultimate end of life.  While the will is committed to this end it cannot remain in a state of indifference when it is considering the claims of God and the truth of benevolence/love as it respects God and the universe. There is no middle ground.  The will must either give up the end of self-indulgence or actively resist benevolence which is perceived in the mind of the spirit.  No selfish moral agent can remain in a state of selfishness without bracing himself against the virtue which he has refused to accept.  If he does not yield it because he has chosen to resist.  The conscience begs the will to yield to the love of God so that the person must either yield or actively resist.  This resistance cannot be passive, but resolute and determined to the point that the Bible calls hardening of the heart. “No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.”  (Matthew 6:24)  The will becomes obstinate in the light of the Holy Spirit and the promptings of the conscience of the spirit.  When that happens specific action is required or selfishness must be abandoned.  The more the light of the gospel shines on the life as the great love of God is shown, the more the darkness of selfishness counters it in the same proportion in order to oppose what it will not accept. The greater the light, the greater the open resistance and as was stated in the previous point, efficiency will go a long way to resist what it will not accept freely because it wishes to cling to self-gratification.  Now it makes us wonder at some of the so-called centers of virtue and holiness why there is no strong resistance among sinners.  In fact, Christians seem to think it a great thing if they can appeal to the sinner on his terms.  This generation has eliminated the resistance by taking on the position of the self-indulgent and giving them what they always wanted, a religion that is not counter to their selfishness.  Both the false Christian and the sinner will burn in hell.  If what you have is real, you will be persecuted as Jesus Christ said,” These things I command you, that ye love one another. If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.” (John 15:17-20)  Selfishness and benevolence are just as much at war with one another as God and Satan, heaven and hell.  There will never be a truce.  They will eternally be opposite to the death.  They are both efficient causes where they will do whatever it takes to further their end, selfishness or benevolence.  This is war and one or the other must be exterminated, they cannot co-exist or be in the presence of each other without utter repulsion.  The energies are spent to subdue and overcome the other.  Selfishness has shed oceans of blood of the saints.  For what reason?  They love God and the best happiness and good end of all creation.  Selfish people just cannot stand that mind set.  It puts them into a rage like Satan himself.  No wonder Jesus was crucified by a brutal crowd after doing nothing more than healing, teaching, loving, and offering forgiveness to all.  What could be more gross and injurious than to prefer selfishness over a loving God sending his own Son to give himself to those he met and now to the whole world?  Yet this opposition never ceases and it grows viler every day.  We see it in every walk of society.  We see it in the war of Islam against the Jews and Christians.  We see it in political debate. We see it in the rush to take God out of society as if God were in some way a plague that would destroy us all.  Why?  Because God represents the anti-selfishness power and any that love the power of self will hate God with a vengeance. We live in the generation of “if it feels good do it” or “I want my rights.”  Both of these positions are taken from the stance of self-indulgence and open resistance to God and holiness.  One may ask if the mind cannot be attacked by thoughts that misreprese3nt God, placing his character in question and in a false light that even blasphemes the very character of God to the point that the will does not consent but the mind is still filled with the torture of the poison and bitterness of hell so that it even effects the sensibility.  This can all happen and yet the will can refuse to yield to selfishness, it can hold fast its integrity as did Job when he made the famous statement, “Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him: but I will maintain mine own ways before him.” (Job 13:15)  The beauty of the love of God is that no matter how sharp the conflict the Christian can look back and say, “Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”  (Romans 8:37-39)  “Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.”  (James 1:12)

YOU HAVE SHOWN CRUELTY IN ESPOUSING YOUR HERESY AND REFUSING THE HEBREWS 6 AND 10 TRUTH

 

Cruelty is another attribute of selfishness.  Can you see the progression?  Voluntariness, liberty, intelligence, unreasonableness, interestedness, partiality, impenitence, unbelief, efficiency, and opposition.  Now it comes to actual cruelty.  This is a state of feeling that represents barbarous or savage pleasure in the misery of others.  Islam at its height is like this.  It was seen in the attack on the World Trade Center and it is seen in the Jihad that exists around the world.  Why is Islam so vehemently opposed to peaceful Christians and Jews so that they will kill the innocent and children?  It is because unless they submit to the claims of Christ, the progression that has been demonstrated here takes them to their basest selfish and self-gratifying savagery.  Cruelty as a trait of the will and an attribute of selfishness that demonstrates a reckless disregard to the well-being of God and the universe.  It perseveres in a course that ruins all the souls that it comes into contact with as much as they can influence them as well as any over which they have direct power.  We see it in our generation more than in any other.  We see suicide bombers that will kill themselves for the ultimate self-gratification of a paradise with a harem of women and the glee of killing, injuring, and maiming innocent civilians because they do not subscribe to their heinous religion.  Sinners that have not gone this far pride themselves that they are not so cruel while the root of the same evil lurks within their own bosom.  Selfishness is always cruel-cruel to the soul that allows it to exist, cruel to others with which he has contact, cruel to souls that he should care about for their salvation from hell, and cruel to a God who loves them and died to save them from utter destruction.  Can you picture a man that is so stuck on his self desires that he sees a friend’s house on fire with him and his family inside and because of self-interests refuses to give them warning?  That is the cruelty of selfishness.  Yet the sinner feigns that he has none of that quality in his heart.  He parades his compassionate feelings toward those who are sick and in distress or suffer affliction.  This person would be shocked if we called him cruel and many professing Christians would take the side of the accused sinner and consider that we were abusing them verbally.  They would try to state that they may have many other flaws, but one of them is certainly not cruelty.  Yet the very root that leads down the path to cruelty, selfishness, lurks in their very heart.  It is the end and scope of their life and given the opportunity or a strong enough reason to efficiently defend their selfish desires, they will descend to the very same pit.  As the Bible puts it, “A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.”  (Proverbs 12:10) The very fact that they live in sin, setting an example of selfishness while doing nothing for their own souls or the souls of others, shows that they are really associated with the most atrocious forms of cruelty that relate to the miseries of men in this life.  Is any more cruel than one that will trample under foot the Son of God by refusing to accept his bloody sacrifice as if it were nothing because their own self-interests are far more important than the intrinsic value of the God of love and of heaven?  That is the height of cruelty!

 

YOUR INJUSTICE IN HOLDING TO HERESY AGAINST TRUTH IS EVIDENCE YOU ARE LOST

 

Injustice is the next step in the attributes of selfishness.  While true justice treats every being with exact equity, injustice is the opposite of this.  Injustice is purposely tipping the scale in favor of the selfish minded.  Injustice is cheating to gain advantage.  Injustice is lying in order to make the other one look bad.  Injustice puts self over all other interests and it does not mind breaking all the rules in order to allow self to prevail.  The greatest injustice is the end chosen, self.  This means that God and man mean nothing as long as self can prevail.  This trumps every other type of injustice in the universe and is the end to which all other means to this end is aimed.  This selfish person is never just, his whole life is unjust, ruled by his selfish mind and caring nothing for any other being unless there is some ulterior motive.  This man’s only interest?  Self-Gratification! That is his end in view.  That is his purpose in life.  All that he does relates to this and since justice demands that he promote God and the highest good of the universe, his very love of self interest is his statement that he is unjust and totally unwilling to repent.  Even his play acting at being just, paying debts, being a good neighbor and the like are only really further demonstrations of his selfishness. He does everything for a selfish end and he will never change until he comes to God and renounces his selfish ways and then consecrates his whole being to the good of God and the Universe as his ultimate new end in life.  That is the only way a sinner can even hope to begin a change.  That is true repentance.  There is no other way to change and anything else would only be another way that efficiency creates reasons to promote self interests without doing what is necessary, namely to repent.

YOUR DESIRE TO HOLD OTHERS AS SLAVES TO YOUR OPPRESSION OF KE IS EVIDENCE YOU ARE LOST

 

Oppression is yet another attribute of selfishness. Oppression is the spirit of slave holding so that it deprives others of their rights.  Any that do this dastardly deed have one end in view, their own self-gratification. The very nature of this selfish person is to enslave God and the entire universe so that all will give up their own interest, happiness and glory and then seek and live for self glory.  This person wants all beings to live to and for him.  He wishes that all interests be bent and sacrificed for his own.  This is a practical denial of the interests of all in the behalf of the selfish person.  They are now the only being with rights and all other beings, goods, chattels, and property have lost claim to the selfish person who aims at making all beings serve him so that all interests are subservient to his own interests. This person is so hell-bent on getting his own self-interests satisfied that his whole life, activity, aim, and effort is to secure this selfish end without any regard to the rights or personal liberty of anyone else in existence. This person is so wrapped up in himself that he cannot help but oppress everyone in view.  This becomes his consuming passion so that no other interest has any value except those that contribute to him.  He does not care what course he takes to secure this end; any course would be equally as oppressive but the end he must have for his own self-gratification and interest.  This person treats other human beings as chattel and it matters not whether they are clothed gorgeously or scantily for he is in control. He will only pray to God because he cannot force God to serve him and hopes that God will be tricked into being enslaved by him. His prayers are seldom for God to act on behalf of others, but rather that god will fulfill his every wish and whim.  He wants nothing of living for God or of wishing the best end for all other beings. If the selfish do seem to care for others it is only a hypocritical pretence and contradicts their every passion, selfishness. This man cares for people no more than he would care for a horse or a dog.  He would take pride in feeding them as a method of throwing glory on himself. This person is the slave trader or holder of days gone by but still exists in foreign countries in the form of wealthy land owners and oppressive despots who become dictators like Saddam Hussein. There is no end to the utter brutality and pain that they can inflict on their subjects.  This person practices continual oppression and nothing else.  As the Bible says, “they make him serve with their sins.”  These despots will actually claim that they are doing God a service and fulfilling His will.  How absurd!  Oppression always develops itself according to circumstances so that when possible it uses the chain and the whip.  Without that power it will use other means to secure the services of others without disinterested return. Oppression assumes many forms but in all of these it is bent on denial of all rights but those of self.  It claims God and all beings as belonging to self.  The selfish person practicing oppression will enslave God and men and try to appropriate to themselves all good.  When they pray it is for a selfish reason to get for self.  It is denial of all rights to all but self.  It claims God, all beings, and all events as belonging to self.  Others dare not even move a muscle unless they get the approval of the selfish oppressor.  Even God had best ask them for approval to run the universe, as it were.

YOUR HOSTILITY TO ALL I HAVE PRESENTED TO YOU IS EVIDENCE YOU ARE LOST

 

Hostility, whether open hostility or secret hostility, is another attribute of selfishness. Selfishness implies a spirit of strife.  It is opposed to peace or amity.  In effect, selfishness is a declaration of war on all beings.  It sets up self-interest as being in opposition to all other interests so that it will seize upon and subordinate all interests to itself.  This creates a perpetual hostility between a selfish being and all benevolent beings.  They are his enemies, mutually and necessarily opposed to each other.  The Believer is seeking universal good and the selfish are seeking their own gratification without any regard to any other interest but that of self.  This creates a course for opposition and war, it is demanded.

It is also true that the selfish are not only at war with believers, but with all other selfish individuals.  Each selfish individual is fully consecrated to seeking his own self interests and at the same time is denying all rights to anyone but himself.  This creates constant strife and hostility toward all.  As long as selfishness is in this world, there will be slavery and war because they are both rooted deeply in selfish so that every selfish man, woman or child is at heart an oppressor, a slaveholder, a tyrant, a warrior, a duelist, a pirate, and any and all other forms of tyrannical hostility toward any and all who appear to be a threat to the self interests of the selfish being.  This is not just idle talk but it is a stark reality that commands attention.  It means that different forms of war and oppression will be constantly being brought to the surface and modified as it meets the demands of a selfish heart in someone.  At times, the bloody sword and the manacle or lash will be laid aside for a more refined mode but the war will be carried on, none the less, as long as selfishness continues in the world. It is impossible that the world should not have such individuals and there will be no less guilt when the form of oppression is more refined and specious than before.  There will be no less guilt or any less displeasing to God than any other form of oppression.  The more creative efficiency modifies this attribute, the more forms of it will appear and the only thing that slows the progress is reaching the world with the Love of God.  Though oppression and war change in form they do not change in spirit, they are only strengthened with more forms of the same and more exposure to the claims of Christ.  The more the light of the gospel is shown on the selfish, the more their guilt will increase as they become more devious than ever.  Sin increases and becomes increasingly sinful in proportion as the light of the truth is shown on the selfish soul and spirit.  One may ask what can be done and the answer is to do all that can be done, but the greatest thing that can be done is that along with putting away all evils, the greatest reform would be to put away selfishness.  When you reform the heart, the life cannot help but be transformed.  Eliminate selfishness and oppression and war will cease.  Try to do anything else and you will find you do no more than to build a dam to stop the Mississippi river right in a sand bank.  Selfishness will work around the dam and carry its devastation down river until all are effect by its horrific torrent.  Some may scoff at this as being heresy and yet God sees the heart, not as man sees.  Heathenism with its wars and filthiness God winks at as comparatively light when compared with intelligent and heartless Christianity.  That is the greatest evil of all.

Remember and let it be forever understood.  Selfishness is at war with all nations and all individuals.  There is no element of peace in it above what is yielded to the gratification of self.  This is the nature of selfishness and as long as it remains, the attributes will remain as well.  Any selfish man that claims to be for peace is a hypocrite; he says but does not.  He preaches but does not practice what he preaches.  Peace is in the mouth but war is in the heart.  They make a show of proclaiming peace and good-will while under their stolen robes of peace they have concealed implements of war against God and the whole universe.  I want to impress this upon every reader to lodge it in their hearts and guarantee that they will always hold, teach and regard this as a fundamental truth both in the natural realm and also in the Christian realm, that selfish persons, whether Christian in name or not, whether a man of peace or a servant of the Prince of Peace, is really, in his heart, character, and spirit a rebel, an enemy, a warrior, and truly and in fact at war with God and all other beings in the universe.

YOUR UNMERCIFULNESS IS SEEN IN YOUR DESIRE FOR THE ROD OF GOD ON HIS SAINTS

 

Unmercifulness is another attribute of selfishness.  If mercy is an attribute of benevolence and it is the disposition to pardon crime so that it will secure conditions upon which the crime can reasonably be forgiven, then unmercifulness is a disposition to refuse to forgive sin.  It shows itself by resisting efforts to secure forgiveness or by treating such efforts with coldness and contempt.  This can be seen in the manner in which sinners treat the plan of God’s salvation, the atonement of Christ, and the means that God used in sending a Savior to the world to pardon sin.  They demonstrate that their tender mercies are actually cruelty.  The way that they oppose the gospel, revivals, and other demonstrations of the mercy of God show that unmercifulness is just part of their character. They man generally profess to be friends of mercy and may even publicly proclaim that they extol the mercies of God but how do they treat His mercies?  To they embrace the gospel and do they show that they favor it in such a way that they hold it forth to all men as worthy of acceptation?  Or, are they constantly at war with it?  How did these supposed friends of mercy treat Christ when He came with his errand of mercy?  They gave the most grotesque demonstration of what unmercifulness is all about, the hideous crucifixion of an innocent man, Jesus Christ, the very embodiment of mercy.  This has always been the case when true mercy is being shown to the world.  We can listen to the blood of the prophets and apostles as it speaks to us along with millions of martyrs; we can especially listen to the blood of Jesus Christ as it cries out from the cross that the perfection of unmercifulness is an eternal attribute of selfishness.  Whenever a selfish person appears to be merciful, beware, it is only appearance.  He may yield to some feelings, be sensitive but only for selfish reasons.  The reason that every sinner does not go to the very depths of unmercifulness is that God has created them with a conscience and even though they have not submitted to God they have godly persons in this world that influence their lives and temper this trait. He is unmerciful and will remain unmerciful while he remains in sin.  To say that he is not an unmerciful wretch is to represent what he is at heart, no matter who it is.

KE IS FALSEHOOD AND YOU KNOW IT BUT LIE TO PROMOTE HERESY

 

Falsehood, or lying, is another attribute of selfishness.  It can be objective or subjective. Objective falsehood stands opposed to truth while subjective falsehood is a heart conformed to error.  Subjective falsehood is a state of the mind, and attribute of selfishness that wills the resisting of truth and of embracing errors and lies.  This is always known as selfishness.  Selfishness chooses an end that is opposed to all truth; it cannot proceed in any other way but to conform to error or falsehood rather than to truth.  If it ever discovers objective truth, as it does at times, it does so without intending to do so.  Its intention is to be at war with truth in the nature and relations of things. If any sinner, at any time, and for any reason tells the truth, it is for a selfish purpose.  He has a lie in his heart and a lie at his right hand.  His life stands upon falsehood and if he does not uniformly and openly falsify the truth it is because objective truth is consistent with subjective falsehood.  His very heart is false; it is as false as it can be.  He has sold himself to the greatest lie in the universe, that his good is the supreme good and that there is no other good but his own; that there are no other rights but his own; that all persons are bound to serve him; and that all interests of others must yield to his.  As we said, this is the greatest of all falsehoods that ever was or can be.  Yet this is the declared position of every sinner.  By his very choice he says that God has no rights, that he should not love or obey Him, that God has no right to govern the universe, that the God and all other beings should be subservient to him, the sinner. Is there any lie greater than this?  Yet they pretend that they love the truth!  Wrong!  This very position is only giving us a brazen example of just how much falsehood is a marked part of this man’s character.  The fact that all sinners do not always openly lie is not because truthfulness is in the heart but it is for some selfish reason.  His heart is false and it is impossible he would ever have any regard for the truth unless he repents.  He is a liar at heart just like Satan, the father of all liars, and even though his intellect condemns falsehood and justifies truth, yet his heart is unchanged, it holds on to lies.  The main lie is that no one can trust God, that Christ is not worthy of confidence, and one of the main lies is that Lordship is evil.  He really believes down inside that his own interest is the supreme good and that all other interests, even God’s, is of less value than his own.

KE IS YOUR PRIDE SHOWING ITSELF IN CONDEMNTATION OF OTHERS

 

Pride is another attribute of selfishness.  Pride is the disposition to exalt self above others. It is climbing out of the proper place on the totem pole, as it were, and moving up to the top above others far more worthy than the proud one.  Pride is related to injustice, on one hand, and to ambition on the other.  It remains closer to both of them as a relation but is not identical with either.  It is self-praise, self-worship, self-flattery, self-adulation,  a spirit of self-consequence, and of self-importance.  It exalts not only the interests of a selfish person, but it also exalts the very person far above all others and even above God.  This proud person regards himself as being supreme and he can worship no one but self.  He is so stuck on himself that he just cannot conceive of anyone more good or worthy than himself.  He even confers special favor on himself and will allow no being in the universe to receive any good where it interferes with his own good.  He will stoop to give preference to the interests; reputation and authority of no one not even God except for an outward show. His heart says, “Who is Jehovah, that I should bow to him?”  He is a clone of Satan and his pride.  The bible says that they are proud and flatter themselves in their own eyes.  Pride is only a modification of selfishness as is every form of sin.  Most people don’t even consider selfishness as evil at all much less being the whole root of evil.  In fact, some have thought that along with selfish comes many forms of virtue.  We need to see that there are many elements of selfishness.  What has been overlooked is that where selfishness is, there is every form of sin.  Also where one form of selfishness comes into view, one can be sure that every commandment of God has been broken and every form of sin exists in the heart. What we are saying here is that where selfishness exists there lies in the dark recesses of the heart, either developed or ready to be developed, every form of sin that exists on earth or in hell.  All sin is a unit and consists of some form of selfishness so that where selfishness is one can find virtually every form of evil. Pride may not seem to be apparent in everyone in its worst forms because the temperament of some will not allow them to go to the depths that pride could take them, yet it is still there.  Wherever sin exists, in any form, selfishness exists as well, and sins exist even if they are in embryonic state.  They only wait for circumstances to develop the embryo into a full grown beast.  Thus when you see sin, know that selfishness is there.  Like a volcano, it may be silent for awhile as if smothered, but eventually it will take vent and destroy all that stand before it.  We are discussing this because so few actually comprehend the basic philosophy of sin, that which constitutes the whole of it.  That is what selfishness is.  Beware, it lurks in the darkness and if given a chance it will rage forth with hideous power and destruction.

 

MADNESS IN STUBBORNLY BELIEVING KE SHOWS YOUR LOST CONDITION

 

Madness is another attribute of selfishness.  Madness can mean anger, intellectual insanity, or moral insanity.  We refer to the last of the three.  Moral insanity is not insanity of the mind but of the heart.  When we speak of moral insanity we state that the conscience is in full operation but the selfish individual acts unreasonably as if they were deranged in their mind and intellect.  The Bible states it this way:  “This is an evil among all things that are done under the sun, that there is one event unto all: yea, also the heart of the sons of men is full of evil, and madness is in their heart while they live, and after that they go to the dead.” (Ecclesiastes 9:3)  It has been shown that sinners-selfish persons-act in every instance in direct opposition to what would be considered reasonable.  It is plain that every selfish soul is morally insane.  He chooses to seek his own interest as an end and would rather have straw than the whole universe of truth.  The sad thing is that he does so knowingly because without selfishness he can never secure his own higher selfish interests.  Can anyone be more insane than to desire his own petty self-gratification above the infinite interests of God and the whole universe?  Worse still, they do it with the knowledge that they can really gain nothing for themselves but the destruction of self in a most complete and sure way.  Sin is thus the greatest absurdity, mystery, and contradiction in the whole universe.

We are talking about madness, an essential element of selfishness.  All sinners, without exception, have to be morally mad to persist in their insane losing direction.  The very choice of an end that will destroy them is madness.  It is infinitely unreasonable.  They pursue selfishness with madness and oppose anything that stands in the way with madness.  It is all madness, infinitely.  The whole world is a moral bedlam, an insane hospital, and sinners are the patients with no doctors in sight, except for God.  Oops!  I forgot that he is the enemy!  God forbid that we should seek help from the Great Physician, Jesus Christ.  If they cannot be cured they will be confined to the ultimate mad house for all eternity.  They cannot see their own madness or that of others because they are all mad together and the madness has the same root, selfishness.  They imagine that Christians are mad and they are sane.  They pronounce us to be in need.  What other conclusion is there?  What if they should discover that it is they, not Christians, which are mad?  This is definitely a heart condition, not an intellectual one.  They voluntarily choose this way and it is not unavoidable.  If it were, they would have no guilt and God could not condemn them to hell, but they are guilty before God because it is their choice and as long as they persist in this choice they are without excuse.  To think that they act rationally on any subject is a mistake because they do everything for the same selfish ultimate reason which is totally irrational.  Their choice of an end and of a means to that end is total madness and desperation of spirit.  It is so common and yet fills a believer in Jesus with amazement and horror.

YOUR EGOTISTICAL STATEMENT THAT YOU ESCAPED COLLEGE SHOWS YOUR LOST CONDITION

 

Egotism is another attribute of selfishness.  This does not necessarily mean that a person is actually talking about and praising self but there is a mind set that consists of self-laudation. A parrot talks about itself but it is not accused of having a big ego.  Moral agents are not sinning when they speak of themselves as God does in order to inform ignorant men of his great character and love.  The same is true of Jesus Christ who sought to introduce himself to the world and share the nature and design of his mission with them.  He spoke much of himself and of his relationship with the Father.  No one would think of accusing them of egotism. What we could call sinful egotism is a selfish state of the will as is all sin.  It is a disposition toward selfishness which cannot be anything else but egotistical in its mind set, language, and deportment.  This egotistical state of mind is revealed in various ways; it is seen in self-commendation and laudation, selfish aims and actions, and of exalting self in action and in word. An egotistical spirit speaks of itself and its achievements in such a way as to reveal that self is a very important personage in the person’s life.  It demonstrates self as being the end of everything, the great idol before which all are required to bow down and worship.  The truth is that egotistical selfish is nothing short of setting up the claim that self is more important than God and the whole universe and should be universally worshipped. God and all other beings should be entirely consecrated to these egotistical selfish interests of this selfish person to the promotion of his own selfish glory. Is there anything more disgusting?  The thoughts are upon self; the heart is upon self; self-flattery is a result; the man is a self-flatterer, a self-deceiver, and a self-devotee. He may even be careful not to speak too much of self for fear of being contemptible to others.  He may even degrade himself with the intention of eliciting praise from others as a sort of self-promoting humility that eyes the praise that will be forth-coming when he speaks of himself in self-abasing terms.  This is totally egotistical; it evidences his humility and his self-knowledge for the discerning mind to see.  His design is to draw forth admiration and applause.  It is a spirit of self-deification, as selfishness always is, though not manifest in words, it is manifest in deeds that draw the words from others.  The bottom line is that the importance of self is assumed by the heart and it finds a way to manifest itself.  It may even parade as self-emptiness, a more refined form of egotism, which says come and see my humility.  There are endless ways an egotistical spirit will manifest itself, so subtle and refined that they appear to resemble Satan with stolen garments of an angel of light.  An egotistical spirit thrusts itself into the best seat, the best table, the best position in line, the highest state room or other types of activity to impress others with the supreme importance of this selfish individual. Speaking about self is not necessarily proof of an egotistical spirit but it is the manner that one uses that gives it away.  A person may speak of self if it will glorify God and benefit others.  If the mind is simple and he is open-heartedly transparent so that he has no ulterior motive but to help people and as such he speaks candidly of faults and virtues with no desire to have selfish gain from such discussions.  Paul the Apostle spoke about his life and accomplishments only as a vindication of his life of service for God and not to get any selfish gain.  He had been slandered, misrepresented, and generally hindered by his enemies so that he sought to set the record straight, as it were, to let people know his side of the issue only to give them the facts.  It had nothing to do with ego but a selfish egotistical person will see something like that in a benevolent person and accuse them of what they practice because of their own guilt feelings.  Generally speaking, however, a person who is disinterestedly benevolent would not want to bring glory to self.  It is totally opposed to the best end of God and the universe, which end they live for.

Brother Dixon,

Please pray for this open door. I am getting quite a few emails about my documentary teachings on Hospice, etc. Brother Marrs has picked it up, and some lives are already being saved. Praise God,

Bro. Joey

 

Gentlemen:

Wow!  We are helping people at hospice while we are lying, teaching heresy, participating in an ecumenical dogma, and sending millions of Christians to outer darkness.  I have a request, renounce your heresy so Christians I know who cry themselves to sleep because of your heresy of KE can once again trust in a loving God who gave his Son to die for the sins of the world and tell them that they will not perish because it is Christ that overcame for us so that we need not fear EVER SPENDING TIME IN OUTER DARKNESS.  Forget Hospice, think of the children that don’t know they are going to heaven because of the KE heresy.  Be not deceived, God is not mocked, whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.  REPENT OF KE or your hospice defense is no better than Shriners and Masons(Lucifer worshipers) building hospitals to help cancer victims or children.  You can’t cover your sin with works of the flesh.

 

That is how you respond to your error concerning Mauro? Let me help you, brother.  Taking Mauro’s later book off my shelf, I read from the book you quoted:

“…dispensationalism…which the recently published ‘Scofield Bible’…is the main vehicle of the new system of doctrine…has usurped the place of authority that belongs to God’s Bible alone…this novel system of doctrine…dispensationalism…my controversy is solely with the doctrine itself…the time came…when the inconsistencies and self-contradictions of the system itself…became so glaringly evident that I could not do otherwise than renounce it…I greatly regret having to mention by name the ‘Scofield Reference Bible’…It is mortifying to remember that I not only held and taught these novelties myself…dispensational truth…I was among those who eagerly embraced it…this modern system of ‘dispensational teaching’ is a cause of division…We are told…that each of these seven distinct periods of time has ‘a character exclusively its own’…On the contrary…Salvation has always been ‘by grace, through faith’…In the year 1918 I published a little book…in which I pointed out that the Sermon on the Mount carries in its own text the clearest evidence that it is a message from God the Father to His own children…Dr. Scofield felt called upon to take some notice of this; so he published shortly thereafter a magazine article under the caption, ‘Is the Sermon on the Mount Law?’ [Scofield writes], ‘…the statement has recently been made that the Sermon on the Mount is not Law. The times are noisy…’…the best that Dr. Scofield could do was to ignore the real question…the Sermon on the Mount was not spoken to explain how a  man gets the new birth…”

(Mauro, The Gospel of the Kingdom)

Thus, we see that Scofield’s extremes drove him into opposite extremes – rejecting all of dispensationalism. His renunciation had nothing to do with the issues we have been discussing:

“Finally…Mauro broke completely with dispensationalism. Among the reasons was the sudden realization that the Scofield Bible ‘has usurped the place of authority that belongs to God alone’….’I could not do otherwise than to renounce it.'”

(George Ladd, The Blessed Hope)

 

Liar, what’s wrong, you can’t accept that after he wrote the book he realized it was heresy.  Don’t read what he said before he did what you should do and renounced his sin.  I don’t know how you can sleep at night.  You have no conscience.  Do you actually think I would read your dribble!  NOT!

 

JOEY RESENTED THE ABOVE DESCRIPTIONS OF A LOST PERSON AS SCATTERED SUBJECTS

 

Well, liar, those are not scattered subjects but all part of my book and discussion of the traits of someone who is lost.  The reason I resorted to that is because, as I said, I am praying for your salvation.  Since you are blind to truth, you need to see the traits of a sinner who thinks that they are a Christian but are bound for hell and taking others with them.

 

JOEY DEFENDING THE FACT THAT HIS PEOPLE HAVE ASSURANCE OF ETERNAL SECURITY

We (and those at our church, and those who share our views) have greater assurance of salvation – in eternity (absolute) since we know that that warnings to saints are only in regard to the Judgment Seat of Christ, and the Millennium, not eternity. This is why Bill Jackson – an evangelist who was never a Catholic – but spent his life as the founder and president of Christians Evangelizing Catholics, wrote the Foreword to my book! His motto was “It is Done.” The only way you can even begin to speak against the teaching is by raising a straw man, that we believe in a loss of salvation – when the greatest supporters of eternal security understand that this teaching alone gives the most assurance. As I already showed. When we asked people privately what years under this teaching has brought them, the number one answer was joy and assurance of salvation, and thus gratitude. So, continue on with your straw man. You have no other means to refute it, but set up a scare-crow of your own design, and then knock it down.

-Joey

 

MY ANSWER TO JOEY’S LIES ABOUT HIS CHURCH HAVING ETERNAL SECURITY

 

Liar, your book says that Christians can go into outer darkness and the people in your church can’t raise their hand to a question stating that they are sure they won’t go to purgatory.  LIAR, LIAR, LIAR.  The Bible says all liars will have their part in the lake of fire.  OH, I forgot, that is called OUTER DARKNESS  where you are sending all unfaithful Christians. LIAR, LIAR, LIAR.

 

ANOTHER ANSWER AND REPLY ABOUT HIS PITIFUL BOOK

YOUR BOOK IS THE MOST PITIFUL COLLECTION OF GARBAGE I HAVE EVER READ.  Everyone that has made a forward or recommendation is completely blind to the truth of the Bible.  You are on your way to hell and you are trying to take others with you.  Next week I will have the results of a poll of INDEPENDENT BAPTIST BIBLE BELIEVING KJV COLLEGES and what they think of your heresy.  You think you are so smug and smart.  The Devil is smart also and can quote more scripture than you.  HE IS GOING TO YOUR HELL WITH YOU.  You aren’t a scholar, you are a moronic excuse for a fantasy writer.

 

ANOTHER ANSWER THAT THE GREATEST SUPPORTERS OF ETERNAL SECURITY BACK HIM

 

GREATEST SUPPORTERS OF ETERNAL SECURITY are sending Christians to Outer Darkness.  RIGHT!  Got any more lies.  How can you lie over and over with no conscience.  Hey, I have one for you, the Bible says “Judas went out and hanged himself.”  Then it says, “Go and do thou likewise.”  Next it says, “What thou doest, do quickly.”  See I am the same kind of scholar that you are.  I can pick any verse I want out of context and teach people to commit suicide.  Isn’t that what you are doing sending people to OUTER DARKNESS.  YOU LOST PITIFUL SATANIC DEMON POSSESSED LIAR.

SCRIPTURE THAT DISPROVES KE THEORY

 

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So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.  (Luke 17:10)

Here is more:

But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle, will say unto him by and by, when he is come from the field, Go and sit down to meat?  (Luke 17:7)

Luke 17:7

Having a servant … – This parable appears to have been spoken with reference to the rewards which the disciples were expecting in the kingdom of the Messiah. The occasion on which it was spoken cannot be ascertained. It does not seem to have any particular connection with what goes before. It may be supposed that the disciples were somewhat impatient to have the kingdom restored to Israel Act_1:6 – that is, that he would assume his kingly power, and that they were impatient of the “delay,” and anxious to enter on “the rewards” which they expected, and which they not improbably were expecting in consequence of their devotedness to him. In answer to these expectations, Jesus spoke this parable, showing them,

1.   That they should be rewarded as a servant would be provided for; but,

2.   That this was not the “first” thing; that there was a proper “order” of things, and that thus the reward might be delayed, as a servant would be provided for, but at the proper time, and at the pleasure of the master; and,

3.   That this reward was not to be expected as a matter of “merit,” but would be given at the good pleasure of God, for they were but unprofitable servants.

By and by – This should have been translated “immediately.” He would not, “as the first thing,” or “as soon” as he returned from the field, direct him to eat and drink. Hungry and weary he might be, yet it would be proper for him first to attend upon his master. So the apostles were not to be “impatient” because they did not “at once” receive the reward for which they were looking.

To meat – To eat; or, rather, place thyself at the table.

And will not rather say unto him, Make ready wherewith I may sup, and gird thyself, and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken; and afterward thou shalt eat and drink?  (Luke 17:8)

Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not.  (Luke 17:9)

So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.  (Luke 17:10)

Luke 17:10

Are unprofitable servants – We have conferred no favor. We have “merited” nothing. We have not “benefited” God, or laid him under “obligation.” If he rewards us, it will be matter of unmerited favor. This is true in relation to Christians in the following respects:

1.   Our services are not “profitable” to God Job_22:2; he “needs” not our aid, and his essential happiness will not be increased by our efforts.

2.   The grace to do his will comes from him only, and all the praise of that will be due to him.

3.   All that we do is what is our “duty;” we cannot lay claim to having rendered any service that will “bind” him to show us favor; and,

4.   Our best services are mingled with imperfections. We come short of his glory Rom_3:23; we do not serve him as sincerely, and cheerfully, and faithfully as we ought; we are far, very far from the example set us by the Saviour; and if we are saved and rewarded, it will be because God will be merciful to our unrighteousness, and will remember our iniquities no more, Heb_8:12.

 

THE LEAST FAITHFUL AND THE MOST FAITHFUL WILL RECEIVE THE SAME REWARD

 

For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise. And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive. So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first. And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny. And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee. Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

(Matthew 20:1-16)

Your KE theory is totally wrong.  In reality the least faithful will get the same as the most faithful.  They will all serve Him and none will be cast into OUTER DARKNESS.  You are wrong and you know it.

 

WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF YOUR HERESY

 

Joey Faust has written the book, “The Rod Will God Spare It?” We informed Joey Faust of his serious error and admonished him not to publish the book after he sent out many of his pre published editions. Nevertheless, he refused and rejected our admonitions repeatedly, so after more than the required two, we broke all fellowship with him. Several months later, Faust published his book, which we promptly have taken to task. Either edition is the most damaging attack on Independent, Fundamental, Baptist soteriology that has come along in quite a while. It is a divisive heresy of the first order. (Herb Evans)

 

 

YOU ARE KNOWN AS A HERETIC

 

In his book, Faust quotes extensively many dead writers (Pember, Govett, Panton, etc.) to convince believers in this century, when these dead writers could not convince (with any significant success) believers in their time and thereafter. The one difference between the isolated comments of many of these writers and Joey Faust is that Joey Faust seeks to systematize his doctrine of believers in hell and the lake of fire by using their peripheral statements and adding to them his own imaginative and fanciful theories. (Herb Evans)

 

YOU ARE DESTROYING PEOPLE’S LIVES AS ANY DEMON WOULD DO

 

Make no mistake about it, Joey Faust is out to obviate, void, and steal the precious promises that the Lord gives to His people. Faust has absolutely no scripture to get believers into the Lake of Fire or Hell, much less to get them out of either. The modus operandi of Faust is to use imaginative parabolic teaching, allegorical comments, obscure O.T. passages, Gospel exchanges (in which it is not always easy to know who is meant unless you have a false teaching you want to prove), innuendo, inference, suggestion, intimidating pontification, and almost every “Lose Your Salvationist” proof text of the Arminians to attempt to convince his readers of his heresy.(Herb Evans)

NO LONGER PRAYING FOR YOUR SALVATION BUT RATHER YOUR DESTRUCTION BY GOD

 

The unmitigated gall and arrogance of Joey Faust to suggest that some believers, who have spent more than 1900 hundred years in heaven will find out that they must go to the lake of fire and hell at the judgment seat, staggers our imagination. Hitler, using this approach of telling a lie so big that the gullible majority will not doubt it, experienced great success. (Herb Evans)

 

NO BELIEVER WILL EVER BE CAST OUT NOR PUNISHED BY GOD

 

Joey Faust does not have one verse of scripture that shows God putting believers into the lake of fire or into the underworld; he merely interpolates such a view. Faust also does not have one verse of scripture to prove God takes anyone out of the lake of fire to put them into the underworld hell. He merely pontificates this false teaching. Contrary to Faust’s view, all death and hell inhabitants will be cast into the lake of fire after THEY are JUDGED at the Great White Throne. Here, EVERY MAN in hell is judged according to his work—not like the JSOC, where only a believer’s works are judged and not the man himself. NONE of hell’s occupants are ever released into glory. ALL of hell’s occupants go to the lake of fire! (Herb Evans)

 

ONLY A LIAR LIKE YOU WOULD CONTRADICT THE PROMISE OF “NEVER PERISH”

 

Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,  (Jude 1:24)

In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:  (Colossians 1:22)

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:  (Ephesians 1:4)

That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.  (Ephesians 5:27)

And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.  (Revelation 14:5)

What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

(Romans 8:31-34)

And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.  (John 10:28)

Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.  (Matthew 18:14)

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.  (John 5:24)

You can’t deny the word of God unless you are demon influenced.

 

It is interesting that this Joey Faust does not have a college education.  When I asked him about that, he said God saved him from being poisoned by Bible college.  Also, when I asked him about his ordination and that I would write to the pastors that ordained him, he was strangely silent. 

 

In short, this Heretic, Joey Faust, has spawned the most evil heresy since the days of Christ,  It is more evil than Islam, Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witness, Christian Science or Catholocism.  At least Catholics know that when they die they are going to purgatory.  Under this heinous Satanic heresy, a Christian can spend 1000 years in heaven and then find out at the Judgment seat of Christ that he needs to be purified 1000 years in outer darkness because he was too carnal.  He truly does not trust that Christ has PAID IT ALL.  He thinks that every Christian still has something that they do and that their works will allow them to be kings in the Millennial Kingdom.  The sad thing about all of this is that some good men have subscribed to this evil.  This heresy destroys soul-winning and the security of the believer.  I could go on but I think that this is well covered by other writers.  THIS MAN IS ONE OF THE WORST HERETICS IN HISTORY.

 This is from an email that I sent to another preacher who is also against this heresy:

It really blows holes in the DEMON IMSPIRED SATANIC HERESY of KE.  I had a conversation by email with Joey Faust this week after he asked me to interpret Hebrews 6 & 10.  He could not swallow the fact that it did not teach punishment on Christians.  I found he was only bating me.  Interestingly I asked for the “experts at are Independent Baptists” that he quoted in his book.    His list were mostly Brethren, Christian and Missionary Alliance, men trained in Cambridge, Asbury College, Fuller Seminary and other real good “Baptist” schools.  I asked him where he went to school and he said that God saved him from the “poison” of college.  I asked who his ordination ministers were so I could write them and ask why they ordained a heretic.  NO ANSWER TO THAT ONE.  Oh, by the way, I found an interesting statement from one of his “experts:”

Philip Mauro (1859-1952) – lawyer/writer – The Church, the Churches and the Kingdom – Dispensationalism Justifies the Crucifixion – Saved at 45 – Episcopalian background – His early twentieth century was a period of great expansion for many errors, such as Dispensationalism and Anglo Israelism.  He first believed in the two stage secret rapture but then renounced it:  (Of the “two stage secret rapture” theory) “It is mortifying to remember that I not only held and taught these novelties myself, but that I even enjoyed a complacent sense of superiority because thereof, and regarded with feelings of pity and contempt those who had not received the ‘new light’ and were unacquainted with this up-to-date method of ‘rightly dividing the word of truth’… The time came… when the inconsistencies and self-contradictions of the system itself, and above all, the impossibility of reconciling its main positions with the plain statement of the Word of God, became so glaringly evident that I could not do otherwise than to renounce it” (Kingdom, pp.177,178).  He wrote the brief that was used at the famous Scopes Trial.

The bottom line?  I see him as a lost man that says he is saved but can’t believe that salvation is free by God’s mercy.  He is like the Pharisees that “….compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.”  The truth is that he does not believe that God can keep him or anyone else from falling and present them “FAULTLESS” before his presence with exceeding joy.  Bottom line, he believes like Satan and trembles but his belief is not saving faith.  He does not “REST” in Jesus Christ.  He is lost and wants to take others with him.  Well, wouldn’t you too if you were the Devil or one that is either possessed by a demon or influenced by one into this heresy like Muhammad or Joseph Smith?

Here is the list of his favorite experts and some quick facts I found on each one, none were good Baptists or educated in Baptist teaching:

  1. Robert Govett – 1825 to 1901 – Anglican Training, Brethren – called a heretic by others
  2. B.H. Pember – 1805 to 1877 – Cambridge Training, Brethren
  3. Watchman Nee – 1903 to 1972 – Parents Methodists – baptized by American Methodist Episcopal Mission
  4. Aiden Wilson Tozer – 1897 to 1963 – No formal theological training, Christian Missionary Alliance – Wheaton College degree finally later in life.
  5. Paul Rader – 1934 – Asbury Theological Seminary, Fuller theological Seminary, General Salvation Army
  6. I.M. Haldeman – 1845 to 1933 – Baptist with no formal training – combated Jevhovah’s Witness – fixation on their Kingdom theology
  7. S.S. Craig – 1833 to 1916 – Book – Dualism of Eternal Life – no idea of his training or church affiliation
  8. R.E. Neighbour – Pastor of Southside Baptist Church – SC – 1908 to 1912- no other information
  9. Philip Mauro (1859-1952) – lawyer/writer – The Church, the Churches and the Kingdom – Dispensationalism Justifies the Crucifixion – Saved at 45 – Episcopalian background – His early twentieth century was a period of great expansion for many errors, such as Dispensationalism and Anglo Israelism.  He first believed in the two stage secret rapture but then renounced it:  (Of the “two stage secret rapture” theory) “It is mortifying to remember that I not only held and taught these novelties myself, but that I even enjoyed a complacent sense of superiority because thereof, and regarded with feelings of pity and contempt those who had not received the ‘new light’ and were unacquainted with this up-to-date method of ‘rightly dividing the word of truth’… The time came… when the inconsistencies and self-contradictions of the system itself, and above all, the impossibility of reconciling its main positions with the plain statement of the Word of God, became so glaringly evident that I could not do otherwise than to renounce it” (Kingdom, pp.177,178).  He wrote the brief that was used at the famous Scopes Trial.
  10. David Morrieson Panton (D. M. Panton) (1870–1955) – pastor of Surrey Chapel, Norwich, Norfolk, UK, – Father Archbishop of the Church of England – West Indies – educated at the Old Hall School, Wellington, for two years, then at St. Lawrence’s School, Ramsgate, where he spent another two years. Finally he attended university at Caius College, Cambridge – Panton was influenced by one of his tutors, Labarestier, who came from Jersey. It was from him Panton first heard of the doctrines of the coming Kingdom and the Glory of Christ, during the last thousand years of earth’s existence (The Millennium). Panton, also, came to accept the view there were conditions, which disciples had to fulfil in order to share this special reign (“Selective Rapture”). The immediate consequence was Panton’s acceptance of baptism by total immersion, which caused him to leave the Church of England and become an “Undenominational” Christian. Panton remained unaffiliated for most of his life, though later he did bring his Church into membership of the Fellowship of Independent Evangelical Churches. THIS MAN WAS NOT A BAPTIST and like many from England was educated at Cambrige.

When I quoted the part from Philip Mauro, Joey denied what he said.  He does not believe that he renounced the heresy.  Another guy, I.M. Haldeman reminds me of Balaam who preached in favor of Israel and against their enemies even Balaak but then the Bible says he caused Israel to sin.  Maybe Haldeman got so close to this Kingdom Heresy of the JW’s that he promoted one of his own and got “Israel to sin” by helping fashion the Baptist Purgatory, I don’t know.  But these are far from Biblical Baptist Scholars.  So why would a staunch INDEPENDENT UNREGISTERED BAPTIST liken Dr. Dixon swallow this ECUMENICAL list of contributors to the KINGDOM HERESY?  Strange?

Great Articles by Herb Evans for Download About Satanic Heretic Faust

Apostle of Uncertainty

Apostle Faust

BARBECUED BAPTIST TOASTIES

Breaking Least Commandments

Buttrefly Excerpt Quotes

Constantly Abiding

Don’t Whine about the Vine

Double Cure and the Sevenfold _Witness

Evans Outline on Faustism _Preached in Texas

Falling from Grace

Faust Changes Horses Midstream _on LOF

Faust Quotes Categorized

Faust Reviewed by Sumner

Faust, Apostle of Uncertainty

Faust’s Baptist Purgatory

Faust’s Baptist Toasties

Faust’s Forty Points

Heretic Faust on the _Resurrection

Heretic Joey Faust

Joey Faust versus Kingdom _Exclusion

Joey Faust’s Two Eternal Lifes

Joey’s Carnal Butterflies

Justification Outline

Justification

Kingdom Exclusion for Whom

New Faustite Heresy

Self Justification

Temporary Salvationists

The Power of Negative Thinking

COMMENT FROM DR. DEAN THOMPSON ABOUT SATANIC HERETIC JOEY FAUST

Thank you brother Dean for your participation,

Of course, be prepared to be called an Independent, Fundamental Baptist Gnostic for opposing Joey Faust. — Herb Evans

Dr. Evans,

I have spoken to a lot of men concerning this “incendiary” doctrine. No one I have spoken to agrees in any way with this doctrine. I do not speak for these other men, but I do speak for myself and my local church. Note the following:

This doctrine of KE and all the planks you have listed is nothing more than a man who is a split-rapturist, who already was an “overcomer,” trying to make a name for himself. He does not know what Gnosticism is or was. He is warned to stay away from my church people and my family. It boggles my mind how good men can call this Heretic a “good family man” when he would try to take our wives, sons and daughters, and get them to focus upon “works” to be included into the Millennial Kingdom, instead of focusing upon the Lord Jesus Christ, and doing works to glorify Him. I would not allow any man who believes this to preach in my church, and I would allow no man who just thinks this is an “eschatological doctrine,” and cannot see the damage this does to our Lord and Savior to speak in my church. And I don’t care how great that man’s family is, and I don’t care if he does preach separation. He’s not preachin’ it here!

And you can quote me.

Dr. Dean Thompson

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